Men's Basketball 22-23

Started by rss77, July 05, 2022, 10:56:38 PM

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Tcl123

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: mountainred
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Quote from: mountainredIMHO, in the Harvard, Penn and Princeton losses, it was the defense that really let them down.
agreed. can't close out shooters and when they try they leave wide open cuts to the basket.  I watched the first 5 minutes of the second half and turned it off because it was sad.

Opponents are hitting 56.8 % of their shots inside the arc.  That is horrid, like bottom 10 in the country bad.  Cornell's offense was outpacing this problem with lots of 3s and lots of forced turnovers, for most of the season but as of late our league opponents are doing a good job of finding the open man and making us pay.

If Cornell wins its 3 remaining home game -- not a certainty by any stretch -- they should make the ILT since Brown still has the P and P trip to make plus a game with Yale.  But the margin for error is now microscopic.

They've lost their mojo and I don't seem them getting it back. Teams obviously found a way on film to exploit the Cornell defense.

I, unfortunately, agree with ken. I pray that I'm wrong tho.

Cop at Lynah

Offense gets headlines, defense wins championships

mountainred

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainredIMHO, in the Harvard, Penn and Princeton losses, it was the defense that really let them down.
agreed. can't close out shooters and when they try they leave wide open cuts to the basket.  I watched the first 5 minutes of the second half and turned it off because it was sad.

Opponents are hitting 56.8 % of their shots inside the arc.  That is horrid, like bottom 10 in the country bad.  Cornell's offense was outpacing this problem with lots of 3s and lots of forced turnovers, for most of the season but as of late our league opponents are doing a good job of finding the open man and making us pay.

If Cornell wins its 3 remaining home game -- not a certainty by any stretch -- they should make the ILT since Brown still has the P and P trip to make plus a game with Yale.  But the margin for error is now microscopic.

They've lost their mojo and I don't seem them getting it back. Teams obviously found a way on film to exploit the Cornell defense.

I, unfortunately, agree with ken. I pray that I'm wrong tho.

Mojo changes fast in sports and the Brown disaster makes everything look worse.  They've played better at home.  Honestly, nothing would surprise me out of the last four games.

mountainred

Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainredIMHO, in the Harvard, Penn and Princeton losses, it was the defense that really let them down.
agreed. can't close out shooters and when they try they leave wide open cuts to the basket.  I watched the first 5 minutes of the second half and turned it off because it was sad.

Opponents are hitting 56.8 % of their shots inside the arc.  That is horrid, like bottom 10 in the country bad.  Cornell's offense was outpacing this problem with lots of 3s and lots of forced turnovers, for most of the season but as of late our league opponents are doing a good job of finding the open man and making us pay.

If Cornell wins its 3 remaining home game -- not a certainty by any stretch -- they should make the ILT since Brown still has the P and P trip to make plus a game with Yale.  But the margin for error is now microscopic.

They've lost their mojo and I don't seem them getting it back. Teams obviously found a way on film to exploit the Cornell defense.

I, unfortunately, agree with ken. I pray that I'm wrong tho.

The Basketball-u site posted a widget that lets you see who makes the ILT.  If every game ends as predicted, Cornell is still the three seed.  Have to hope the Brown game was an outlier.

ugarte

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: toddlose
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainredIMHO, in the Harvard, Penn and Princeton losses, it was the defense that really let them down.
agreed. can't close out shooters and when they try they leave wide open cuts to the basket.  I watched the first 5 minutes of the second half and turned it off because it was sad.

Opponents are hitting 56.8 % of their shots inside the arc.  That is horrid, like bottom 10 in the country bad.  Cornell's offense was outpacing this problem with lots of 3s and lots of forced turnovers, for most of the season but as of late our league opponents are doing a good job of finding the open man and making us pay.

If Cornell wins its 3 remaining home game -- not a certainty by any stretch -- they should make the ILT since Brown still has the P and P trip to make plus a game with Yale.  But the margin for error is now microscopic.

They've lost their mojo and I don't seem them getting it back. Teams obviously found a way on film to exploit the Cornell defense.

I, unfortunately, agree with ken. I pray that I'm wrong tho.

The Basketball-u site posted a widget that lets you see who makes the ILT.  If every game ends as predicted, Cornell is still the three seed.  Have to hope the Brown game was an outlier.
has us as the 4 seed even with a loss to Harvard, which is also nice, I guess. still going to be worried and you can't stop me!

billhoward

Quote from: Ken711They've lost their mojo and I don't seem them getting it back. Teams obviously found a way on film to exploit the Cornell defense.
Cornell won 5,4, 4 and 3 games my four years on campus. True, those years are so long ago, dunking wasn't legal. The Sweet Sixteen season spoiled me. That we finish in the top four just makes us think we have a shot to make the NCAAs. Could happen. Maybe.

It does sound with the players Brian Earl recruited, we should do a bit better.

ugarte

back and forth game and cornell blew a late lead to go to OT (and blew the last possession so badly that Dartmouth got the last shot but rimmed it out). OT was all Cornell, though - scored the first 12 points, IIRC. Big Red go to 6-5.

Meanwhile
Penn (6-4) is beating Yale (7-3) by 2 with 4:59 left
Princeton (7-3) is beating Brown (6-4) by 13 early in the second half.
Harvard (3-7) blowing out Columbia, and we play H tomorrow.

upprdeck

Cornell wins tomorrow to get to 7-5

Penn/brown would mean either all 3 tied or Cornell in 4th

Princ/yale  Princeton win could make a 4 way tie for 2nd.

ugarte

Penn hangs on, Princeton rolls.


               [u]Remaining[/u]
Princeton 8-3  Yale/@Harvard/Penn
Yale      7-4  @Princeton/Cornell/@Brown
Penn      7-4  Brown/Dartmouth/@Princeton
Cornell   6-5  Harvard/@Yale/Columbia
Brown     6-5  @Penn/@Columbia/Yale
Dartmouth 5-6  @Columbia/@Penn/Harvard
Harvard   4-7  @Cornell/Princeton/@Dartmouth
Columbia  1-10 Dartmouth/Brown/@Cornell

upprdeck

Penn loses to brown/Dart beats Prince ends up 8-5
Cornell beats Yale/Columbia 8-5 loses to Harvard
Dartmouth wins out 8/5
Yale beats Princ loses to Cornell/Brown 8-5
Brown beats Brown/Yale loses to Columbia 8-5

5 way tie for 2nd is still in play

mountainred

Last night Cornell won the turnover battle by 8, yet somehow had 5 fewer points off turnovers.  Not sure I've ever seen that before.  And because Manon started in place of Boothby, Cornell had just 5 bench points out of the total of 95.  Boothby, Ragland and Watson were all shutout.  I'm sure all that means something, but I have no idea what.

arugula

The key is the return of williams. Slots everyone in the right place.  Shorten the bench? Based on last night, maybe?

chimpfood

Today will make or break our postseason hopes as a loss on the road vs Yale and a win at home vs Columbia are all but guarantees at this point.

ugarte

Quote from: chimpfoodToday will make or break our postseason hopes as a loss on the road vs Yale and a win at home vs Columbia are all but guarantees at this point.
take hasn't been consistent enough for that but also... kinda, yeah

Ken711

Quote from: upprdeckCornell wins tomorrow to get to 7-5

Penn/brown would mean either all 3 tied or Cornell in 4th

Princ/yale  Princeton win could make a 4 way tie for 2nd.

Will that ship sailed along with whatever mojo the team had this last of the season.