Cornell lacrosse 2023

[arugula]

They were announcing from their basements. Didn't realize ESPN was doing it this way. They seemed disengaged and quint was absolutely refusing to take the bait and give Cornell due credit despite his partners prompting.  Par for the course I guess.

[billhoward]

They were announcing from their basements. Didn't realize ESPN was doing it this way. They seemed disengaged and quint was absolutely refusing to take the bait and give Cornell due credit despite his partners prompting.  Par for the course I guess.

We're seeing cost concerns at work. This is not NC$$ hoops but college lacrosse. It may be the cost of two air tickets into and out of Ithaca, plus two nights in a hotel, has an impact. Or the time driving to and from. Kessenich can only do so much in a week and for all the work he does on lax, wrestling, horse racing etcetera for TV and online, he's super busy. But still:

If ESPN-X (whichever not-primary ESPN channel) has the announcing pair working from homes, ESPN ought to send around a lighting specialist and set designer (read: install a greenscreen) so it doesn't look like two guys working out of two basements. Maybe morph them onto a single set.

I hope they have a whisperer in the Schoellkopf press box to queue them to anything they may be missing from the feed.

Meanwhile, did anybody else get excited seeing the teaser for Cornell-Syracuse lacrosse Tuesday on ESPN-U and think this traditional game got re-added when some other opponent dropped out? Oops, that's Cornell and Syracuse women playing, 6 pm. It showed up a couple times, but I didn't hear it announced.

[nshapiro]

I suspect that cost was only part of the issue.  They probably asked Quint and Anish if they wanted to go to Ithaca and were told "No Fucking Way,  that is not in the ACC or B10."

[djk26]

They were announcing from their basements. Didn't realize ESPN was doing it this way. They seemed disengaged and quint was absolutely refusing to take the bait and give Cornell due credit despite his partners prompting.  Par for the course I guess.

I guess he was a little more convinced by watching Cornell live...er...on TV yesterday.  In this week's rankings, Quint has us #5 behind the four ACC/B1G heavyweights of UVA, ND, MD, Duke.  Hard to argue that Cornell's resume so far is stronger than any of those teams.  He was very complimentary in his write up.

Quint's top 20 for March 27, 2023

The Big Red's transformation from an ugly home loss against Penn State to a road demolition of Yale in one week was eye-opening. I like the Cornell offense a lot. Their defense is sound and Ierlan is clicking with a strong save percentage, he doesn't let in soft goals. My questions would center on the depth of the SSDM position, faceoffs, and middle of the field capability when they have to play a more athletic team from the ACC or Big Ten. Lots to like here. Cornell is the favorite in the Ivy League, and a title contender.

[billhoward]

Seven games in, 6-1 Cornell climbs from 7 to 5 in the USILA polls, remains at 5 in the media poll. The top seven have one loss each except Maryland and Rutgers with two. Via the USILA poll :

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 1. Notre Dame    520 was 2
 2. Maryland      489 was 3
 3. Virginia      449 was 1
 4. Duke          443 no change (10 games already played, 9-1)
 5. Cornell       408 NC
 6. Rutgers       396 NC
 7. Villanova     329 was 10
 8. Hopkins       303 was 9 (has 3 losses )
 9. Penn State    289 was 5 ("          " )
10. Loyola        258 was 12("          " )
...
12. Yale          247 was 8 ("          " )
13. Army          229 NC
16. Penn          151 was 17 (" " )
20. Princeton      34 was 18 (3-4)
Also votes: Dartmouth (first Ivy win since 2015, OT vs. Harvard)https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls <-- resolves to the most current poll

One thing our ESPNU announcers mentioned during the Penn game, when they weren't distracted by doing the play by play, was: polls-schmolls, what matters to the NCAA seeding committee is RPI, and with the Ivies comparatively weak this year, it could be a two-bid Ivy League participation in the 2023 tournament. Cornell will likely go and whoever else goes (Yale? Penn? Princeton?) isn't getting much of a bump beating fellow Ivy teams. For Cornell that could mean a non-top-four seeding unless one of the top four loses one or two more games.

Cornell's two most challenging games should be:
@ Army 4/15 noon
Princeton 4/29 noon

[billhoward]

All that and, he's covering his bases. Doesn't want Cornell to sneak up on the experts two years in a row.

[Al DeFlorio]

Brown knocks off Villanova today, 13-11, thanks to 22 saves vs. V's 8.

[upprdeck]

No idea after the top 3-5 teams who is good.. Too bad Cornell didnt beat PSU it would mame it much clearer.

[Weder]

They were announcing from their basements. Didn't realize ESPN was doing it this way. They seemed disengaged and quint was absolutely refusing to take the bait and give Cornell due credit despite his partners prompting.  Par for the course I guess.

We're seeing cost concerns at work. This is not NC$$ hoops but college lacrosse. It may be the cost of two air tickets into and out of Ithaca, plus two nights in a hotel, has an impact. Or the time driving to and from. Kessenich can only do so much in a week and for all the work he does on lax, wrestling, horse racing etcetera for TV and online, he's super busy. But still:

If ESPN-X (whichever not-primary ESPN channel) has the announcing pair working from homes, ESPN ought to send around a lighting specialist and set designer (read: install a greenscreen) so it doesn't look like two guys working out of two basements. Maybe morph them onto a single set.

I hope they have a whisperer in the Schoellkopf press box to queue them to anything they may be missing from the feed.

Meanwhile, did anybody else get excited seeing the teaser for Cornell-Syracuse lacrosse Tuesday on ESPN-U and think this traditional game got re-added when some other opponent dropped out? Oops, that's Cornell and Syracuse women playing, 6 pm. It showed up a couple times, but I didn't hear it announced.

Pre-covid, the cable sports networks were already doing this with European soccer games, and NBC had also done some lesser Olympics events from a studio. During the pandemic, the sports networks got accustomed to covering games from off-site, so this is here to stay. In DC, the Capitals didn't start sending the announcers to road games again until midway through last season.

[billhoward]

The US broadcasts for Formula 1 — as obscenely affluent as a sport can be – have had cost constraints so the announcers worked out of a USA studio and IIRC had to rely on the Formula 1 feed, not even a single camera controlled by the Yanks.

I didn't realize the Caps had their announcers off the road for a period – in the very late end of Covid? But I'm so old school I still bristle at the idea the team TV announcers are really dancing to the tune of the team's interests, not the viewers'.

Despite that, there was Mike Emrick. Genius.

And Cornell's radio now webcast announcers are a very good bunch compared to the jokers, for the most part, other Ivy / ECAC schools have.

[billhoward]

No idea after the top 3-5 teams who is good.. Too bad Cornell didnt beat PSU it would make it much clearer.

Indeed. We'd be top three except then how would the voters break apart the Virginia-Notre Dame-Maryland holy trinity so at least one of them would hold the top spot?

Cornell wins out including Army and Princeton, we might still be outside the top four seeds (Duke being the other).

[Al DeFlorio]

No idea after the top 3-5 teams who is good.. Too bad Cornell didnt beat PSU it would make it much clearer.

Indeed. We'd be top three except then how would the voters break apart the Virginia-Notre Dame-Maryland holy trinity so at least one of them would hold the top spot?

Cornell wins out including Army and Princeton, we might still be outside the top four seeds (Duke being the other).

Last year a big advantage to being #6 or #7 rather than #5 or #8.  Maybe not so much this year with the big three (maybe four) pretty much evenly matched.  Although UVA seems more explosive.

[dbilmes]

Our game against Brown will be tougher than it looks if just go by won-loss records. Brown had suspended four seniors for a noise violation, and they returned this week to lead Brown to a victory over No. 6 Villanova.

[billhoward]

In 2022, the path to championship Monday lay in avoiding Maryland. This year, there is no single dominant team. We coulda been gone in the quarterfinals last year given a different bracket. So could Maryland.

[BearLover]

No idea after the top 3-5 teams who is good.. Too bad Cornell didnt beat PSU it would make it much clearer.

Indeed. We'd be top three except then how would the voters break apart the Virginia-Notre Dame-Maryland holy trinity so at least one of them would hold the top spot?

Cornell wins out including Army and Princeton, we might still be outside the top four seeds (Duke being the other).

If Cornell wins out, that means they win the Ivy tournament and finish 14-1. Cornell would 100% be a top 4 seed under those circumstances, possibly first overall. The teams ahead of us aren't all going to win out. In fact, that would be impossible since some of them will play each other, multiple times. Cornell controls its own destiny.