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[Al DeFlorio]

Greg wrote:

Weirdly, three of those guys won Cups with the same three teams: Toronto 14, Seattle 17, and Victoria 25.
Post Edited (05-13-03 17:42)

And--unless expansion knows no bounds--they'll be the only three.

[Greg Berge]

Although the Seattle franchise may have moved on to become an NHL franchise.  The Portland Rosebuds, the first US team to challenge for the Cup, a few years before Seattle became the first US franchise to win it, moved to Chicago and became the Black Hawks.

[gtsully]

Rich Stamboulian wrote:

Now why would you refer to them as old "bastards"?  Don't like the Rangers, eh?

Does anyone?   :-P



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[CowbellGuy]

Sully '00 wrote:
Does anyone?   :-P

Eat me

[Rich Stamboulian]

Actually, yes....and a whole lot more folks than like the devils.  

Let me know when the latter sell out a playoff game...or any game at the Meadowlands, not involving the Rangers...:-)

[gtsully]

Don't get me wrong - I hate the Devils.  Even more than the Rangers at this point, actually, just because I'm so sick of them being sucessful with their boring-ass, "score few goals but allow very few" style.  Hell, at least the Wild have some speedy forwards and exciting playmakers who, until recently, could score a little bit when needed.

So lest anyone think I'm a Devils fan, I'm not.  I'm a Bruins fan.  Insert joke here.

[Greg Berge]

[q]I'm a Bruins fan. Insert joke here.[/q]

You already have.  (I don't hate the Bruins, but that was too wicked easy... ;-) )

[CUlater]

[Q]...their boring-ass, "score few goals but allow very few" style.[/Q]

The Devils were 14th in the league in scoring this season, i.e. in the top half.  And they are third in goals scored per game in the playoffs thus far.

[jason]

And some may say that describes Cornell's style under Schafer.

[CUlater]

Oops.  Further research shows that others have accomplished the feat.

Al Arbour (1961 Chicago, 1962 Toronto)
Ted Litzenberger (1961 Chicago, 1962 Toronto)
Ab McDonald (1960 Montreal, 1961 Chicago)
Eddie Gerard (1922 Toronto, 1923 Ottawa)
Lionel Conacher (1934 Chicago, 1935 Montreal)
Eddie Gerard (1921 Ottawa, 1922 Toronto)
Harry Holmes (1917 Seattle, 1918 Toronto)
Bruce Stuart (1908 Montreal, 1909 Ottawa)
Art Ross (1907 Kenora, 1908 Montreal)
Jack Marshall (1901 Winnipeg, 1902 Montreal)

[jd212]

That's kind of an odd comment. I find the Devils and Cornell to have incredibly similar styles of play. Oddly, the Devils' goalie gets most of the credit, it's obvious how fantastic he is, while the Cornell goalie usually has his stats clouded by the accolades of the fantastic defense in front of him. How could you say you are sick of the Devils' style of play, when hundreds of fans from those "higher scoring" conferences constantly say the same thing about Cornell, whether valid or not? I find NJ's style of play to be most respectable, because it's easy to win when you can score 5 goals a game with a halfway-decent NHL defense. But it makes for an even better team who can pull out the close-scoring games on the strength of a great D and goalie. Anyway, it's not really a reason to hate a team, sounds more like envy to me....they beat your precious B's. Oh please, Ottawa's some real competition.



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[CowbellGuy]

I just hate the Devils, well, because they're the Devils, if that makes you feel any better.

[Greg Berge]

It is not as if NJ is eschewing the "easy" road to victory.  If they could score 5 GPG, they would.  Anybody would.  Given the current constraints on scoring in the NHL, I doubt the 1986 426 GF Edmonton team would even get to 326 (53 more than this year's league leader) now.

The Cornell analogy is apt: if you like the team then they play a tight, solid, two way game.  If you don't like them then they're a godawful boring blight on the hockey landcape.  I'm glad Joe has a shot at a third Cup -- I'd root for whatever team he was on.



Post Edited (05-15-03 17:16)

[Rich Stamboulian]

whatever the stats are...they are boring...boring....boring...and thats one reason their attendance is so poor.  Boring...and incredibly efficient.

Brodeur is excellent but he normally is called on to make very few tough saves.

[Jeff Hopkins \'82]

I'd love it if Cornell could play a wide open style and win, but I accept the low scoring approach because I know that's what it takes for them to win.  I feel the same way about how Hitch had the Flyers playing.  They're my team, and I'd rather see them win that shoot the lights out and lose.

I hate it when New Jersey (or Ottawa) play that same style, because I hate their guts.  I was so rooting for Vancouver to make it to the finals if only to see some goals scored.

And I've said it before, but I'll say it again: "The Stanley Cup does not belong in New Jersey."

JH