Opponents and Others, 2022-23

Started by dbilmes, April 10, 2022, 08:47:23 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: blackwidowExactly this. Cornell loyalty >>> very unlikely pro hockey career

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BearLover

I'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

blackwidow

Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

exactly this. It's not like cornell had high goaltending standards last season. maybe there was a fallout with the coaching staff.

Dafatone

Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

exactly this. It's not like cornell had high goaltending standards last season. maybe there was a fallout with the coaching staff.

Shane put up a .933 save percentage.

Again, didn't you say you were leaving?

blackwidow

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Quote from: blackwidow
Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

exactly this. It's not like cornell had high goaltending standards last season. maybe there was a fallout with the coaching staff.

Shane put up a .933 save percentage.

Again, didn't you say you were leaving?

Shane had some terrific games but also gave up soft ones. I wouldnt call him an elite goalie yet. I changed my mind about leaving. Hopefully, the same happens to Howe.

Dafatone

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Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

exactly this. It's not like cornell had high goaltending standards last season. maybe there was a fallout with the coaching staff.

Shane put up a .933 save percentage.

Again, didn't you say you were leaving?

Shane had some terrific games but also gave up soft ones. I wouldnt call him an elite goalie yet. I changed my mind about leaving. Hopefully, the same happens to Howe.

Shane had a higher freshman save percentage than Gillam, Iles, Scrivens, and McKee. He was a few points below Galadja and LeNeveu's freshman seasons.

You said we didn't have a "high bar." Now you're saying "oh maybe it was a high bar but it wasn't elite."

Stop it. Shane was tied for fourth in the entire country in save percentage (tied with Galadja, no less).

Go suggest that a COVID booster caused Schafer's heart condition somewhere else.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

He's already behind Shane and we have Koeppel coming in.

I'm OK with this from Cornell's POV, too.  We can start to turn the wheels on the next goaltender in the pipeline.  We're at least barely minimally compliant for goaltending with Shane, so we can recruit among the most highly sought after prospects with a clear conscience that if that takes a couple years we're still set, whereas if we strike gold quickly we won't have an embarrassing glut of goalies seeking minutes.  As for Howe, it's ideal for him.  He showed he's good enough, and somebody out there could probably use him as a #1.


QuoteAlso, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

They really do need to figure it out.  I have always maintained that as long as we are admitting athletes who are remotely in the same intellectual ballpark as our real, er, unathletic students then all the rest of the Paraphernalia of Elitism (later start, shorter schedule, no athletic scholarship, ban on grad eligibility) is transparently cynical brand management.  These idiots are every bit the students that the average rich frat bro is.  Stop punishing them to maintain our fictional superiority among Long Island brood sows.

blackwidow

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Quote from: BearLoverI'm not going to fault a kid for wanting to play elsewhere when he isn't getting playing time. These kids want to play hockey, not linger on the bench. With that said, it's a little surprising Howe is throwing in the towel so quickly. One would have thought he'd have a decent chance at winning the position next season.

Also, Cornell and the Ivies need to figure out what they are going to do about the transfer portal. The Ivies don't permit scholarships or graduate transfers, which limits the number of players who could transfer to their school. I do not know if the coaching staff has expressed a position on the transfer portal, but at the moment rival schools are scooping up players while the Ivies are getting no one.

exactly this. It's not like cornell had high goaltending standards last season. maybe there was a fallout with the coaching staff.

Shane put up a .933 save percentage.

Again, didn't you say you were leaving?

Shane had some terrific games but also gave up soft ones. I wouldnt call him an elite goalie yet. I changed my mind about leaving. Hopefully, the same happens to Howe.

Shane had a higher freshman save percentage than Gillam, Iles, Scrivens, and McKee. He was a few points below Galadja and LeNeveu's freshman seasons.

You said we didn't have a "high bar." Now you're saying "oh maybe it was a high bar but it wasn't elite."

Stop it. Shane was tied for fourth in the entire country in save percentage (tied with Galadja, no less).

Go suggest that a COVID booster caused Schafer's heart condition somewhere else.

I thought this forum was in agreement about shane being a rebound board in several games this season. I used high bar and elite interchangeably.  

Also, my dad was advised not to take the vaccine because of his underlying heart conditions. Covid vaccine causing heart inflammation in rare cases i thought was factually correct. I believe vaccination across the vast majority of the population is the right thing to do \\-_-/

CU2007

It's a weird thing with Shane. The numbers are great and stats don't lie, but he just doesn't make me as comfortable as some of those other goalies, even those with slightly worse numbers.

Maybe it's some sort of bias.

Trotsky

Quote from: CU2007It's a weird thing with Shane. The numbers are great and stats don't lie, but he just doesn't make me as comfortable as some of those other goalies, even those with slightly worse numbers.

Maybe it's some sort of bias.
If it is, I have it too.

Juicy rebounds.  Maybe we also felt less comfortable with the defense's ability to control the play so any slip seemed critical.

BearLover

Quote from: CU2007It's a weird thing with Shane. The numbers are great and stats don't lie, but he just doesn't make me as comfortable as some of those other goalies, even those with slightly worse numbers.

Maybe it's some sort of bias.
Good numbers, but small sample size. The jury is definitely still out.

redice

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: CU2007It's a weird thing with Shane. The numbers are great and stats don't lie, but he just doesn't make me as comfortable as some of those other goalies, even those with slightly worse numbers.

Maybe it's some sort of bias.
Good numbers, but small sample size. The jury is definitely still out.

The jury is not still out with me.  IMO, the future of the team rests with the success of our incoming goalie(s), not Shane.  Shane's glowing numbers?  It's the system!
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

upprdeck

considering he went from not playing at all to starting and doing pretty well in the middle of a time where the team was not really even able to practice, i think we need to let it play out... some of the stuff he needs to improve on may come in time.  rebound control can be improved easier than stopping the original shots

Trotsky

We have had goalies who made significant improvements over their careers (Bandurski, Skazyk, Underhill).  The important thing is this time last year goaltending was a giant question mark.  Now we know that we have, at worst, a good goalie who put up great numbers, and who seems to work well within The System (TM).

We are in so much better a position than last year at this time.  We reset at 4th, not 7th or 10th.  We have a young team but we do not face the assimilation of an enormous number of players with no prior playing time.  We know we can score.  Our big problem is probably defense which is the one thing we seem to always be able to reload and refine.

Oh, and by October Mike might not be needing intensive care quite so often.

Future's bright, folks.  Now let's go steal some underclassmen in the portal!  That's how you screw BU!

jtwcornell91

Quote from: blackwidowExactly this. Cornell loyalty >>> very unlikely pro hockey career

Not everyone expects to play in the bigs.  We had a player a few years back whose plan was to play college hockey well enough to play pro hockey in Europe, because it would give him the opportunity to live in another country.