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min \'97

how about the cornell-brown game at lynah on 11/8/97? down two goals with about 6 minutes to go in the third, moynihan scores to pull within one at 15:59, dailey ties it (EAG) at 18:38, and knopp wins it at 18:58.

boxcore: http://www.hockey.cornell.edu/news/PastYears/Box98/Brown.1108 (thanks KK).

it may not be a true "classic" (nothing really at stake), but certainly a great game to watch!

Jim Hyla

Greg, from one who saw both, this years EN was much more important, and to me will be the more famous over time. The 79 game was a classic, but if we had lost that game we not be talking about it past 1980, I'd bet.

However had we again lost this one to Harvard, with that EN being the deciding goal, then I'd bet (why I use that phrase twice is beyond me right now) this team, particularly the seniors would carry it around forever.

So, just on significance, to me it's the classic EN, if not the classic game.

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

ugarte

QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:

I wonder if this year's puck rolling on edge in the ECAC Championship game has replaced that as the most famous missed empty net.  At least that one couldn't really be blamed on the opposing player.

I'm not so sure that there the Harvard guy shouldn't be blamed.  He took a shot at the empty net from over 70 feet, and gave us a faceoff right in front of Dov when he missed.  You can't blame him for missing the shot from that distance, but you can blame him for taking it.


jtwcornell91

Quotebig red apple wrote:
I'm not so sure that there the Harvard guy shouldn't be blamed.  He took a shot at the empty net from over 70 feet, and gave us a faceoff right in front of Dov when he missed.  You can't blame him for missing the shot from that distance, but you can blame him for taking it.
I may be remembering it wrong because of the emotion of the situation, but I recall that Harvard was under some pressure and the guy was sort of clearing it towards the empty net.  I have this impression that Bob Norton, who normally harps on endlessly about defensive zone faceoffs, said it wasn't a bad play to launch it on that occasion, even though it ended up leading to a goal.


Richard Stott \'70

The Harvard game is one of Cornell's great wins, but I saw both games and the 1979 game is in a class by itself.  First, the background.  Providence had upset one of Cornell's best teams in '78 in the quarterfinals 8-5.  Now we are down 5-2 in the third period in '79 quarters.  We storm back to 5-4 and pull the goalie.  What made the game so extraordinary was not that PC missed the empty net but did so on a BREAKAWAY. (Has anyone ever seen thast happen before or since?) The PC players on the ice had statred to celebrate and had to scramble to get back on defense, Nethery skated down and scored with 15 seconds or so left,  and we won in overtime.

By the way in 1980 IIRC we had to beat BU in the final regular season of the year even to make the playoffs.  The game went in to overtime and BU his the post before Cornell scored.  We then got hot beat BC the number one seed in the quarters and went on and on to win the ECAC championship

Jim Hyla

[Q] We then got hot beat BC the number one seed in the quarters and went on and on to win the ECAC championship.[/Q]In fact that ECAC was a classic in itself, since we beat the no. 1 seed in the quarters, no.2 in the semis, and no. 3 in the finals. I don't know if that had ever happened, since they didn't always reseed the teams before. So if you beat the first seed, you used to take their position and would play a low seed. Does anyone remember when they started to reseed the teams after each round of the playoffs?

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jeff Hopkins \'82

Well, I personally think it was a great play   ::nut::

However, if I were a Harvard (sucks!) fan, I'd have said "Wait till you cross the redline, you idiot!"

JH

Jeff Hopkins \'82

As I recall, 1980 was the first time the #8 seed had EVER won the ECAC tourney.

Unfortunately, Providence repeated the feat the next year by beating us in the final in '81.  Their semi was another great game.  They pulled their goalie with less than a minute down 3-1, and scored two goals in the last minute to take the game to OT.  It's the only time I've ever seen pulling the goalie work when down two goals.

JH

kingpin248

QuoteJeff Hopkins '82 wrote:

As I recall, 1980 was the first time the #8 seed had EVER won the ECAC tourney.

Unfortunately, Providence repeated the feat the next year by beating us in the final in '81.  Their semi was another great game.  They pulled their goalie with less than a minute down 3-1, and scored two goals in the last minute to take the game to OT.  It's the only time I've ever seen pulling the goalie work when down two goals.

JH

2001 NCAA Championship Game.  North Dakota, down 2 - 0 to BC, pulls Goehring twice, and scores twice. It worked at least insofar as tying the game, even if BC would go on to win the game in overtime.

http://www.collegehockeystats.com/0001/boxes/mbc_ndk1.a07
Matt Carberry
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Al DeFlorio

QuoteJeff Hopkins '82 wrote:

As I recall, 1980 was the first time the #8 seed had EVER won the ECAC tourney.

Unfortunately, Providence repeated the feat the next year by beating us in the final in '81.  Their semi was another great game.  They pulled their goalie with less than a minute down 3-1, and scored two goals in the last minute to take the game to OT.  It's the only time I've ever seen pulling the goalie work when down two goals.

JH
Providence was a #7 seed in 1981, Jeff.  And they were playing #1 Clarkson in the semis--during that period when the Knights seemed always to be finding a way to melt-down in the ECACs (also see Clarkson's 1977 semifinal loss to BU after leading by--IIRC--three goals well into the third).

Al DeFlorio '65

Al DeFlorio

QuoteJim Hyla '67 wrote:

[Q]Does anyone remember when they started to reseed the teams after each round of the playoffs?

1969 was not reseeded. 1973 was.  The years between are indeterminate looking back on the results.  I don't recall when the change was made.

Al DeFlorio '65

Jeff Hopkins \'82

The best thing was watching all the Clarkson fans show up 15 minutes before the championship was supposed to start only to find out their game ended a half hour before!

Tee hee!

JH

Greg Berge

The epic 1980 run is captured here: http://www.spiritone.com/~kepler/rptGamesByYear/rptGamesByYearPage14.html

Cornell needed to beat Providence and win at BU just to make the playoffs in the first place; then they made the run of the ages at BC and against Providence and Dartmouth.  Remarkably, Cornell came within a goal of getting all the way to the national final that year.

Greg Berge

[q] It's the only time I've ever seen pulling the goalie work when down two goals.[/q]

Didn't Don Lucia once pull the goalie for the entire third period while at CC?  IIRC, his team actually scored 2 or 3 goals... but gave up a bundle.

In the 80's an NHL team pulled the goalie and scored at least twice to tie it up.  I think it was the Pens.

Al DeFlorio

QuoteGreg wrote:

The epic 1980 run is captured here: http://www.spiritone.com/~kepler/rptGamesByYear/rptGamesByYearPage14.html

Cornell needed to beat Providence and win at BU just to make the playoffs in the first place; then they made the run of the ages at BC and against Providence and Dartmouth.  Remarkably, Cornell came within a goal of getting all the way to the national final that year.
And the boneheads at insidecollegehockey.com didn't include it in their list of twelve biggest playoff upsets.

Al DeFlorio '65