Commentary: College Hockey (Still) Has a COVID Problem

Started by jeff '84, December 29, 2021, 10:14:19 PM

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Trotsky

Good article.  This shocked me:

QuoteForfeits don't count towards the Pairwise. At least they haven't in the past, when it comes to things like using illegal players.

The fuck is the ostensible reason for that?

upprdeck

cornell would probably have had an issue playing if this was 2-3 weeks ago too.. As it is we will be short several players this weekend.

Dafatone

Somewhat amusingly, Michigan tied Michigan Tech last night.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: jeff '84Subheading: But It's Not (Only) What You Think

Great article by Adam:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2021/12/28_Commentary-College-Hockey.php#.Yc0jPIaLbGQ.link

Good opinion piece. Unfortunately, judging from the comments, some people think that it's an investigative article, based upon facts, and is true.

Well it might be true, but what is written is opinion.

I'm not saying it shouldn't have been written. Sometimes stating your opinion in an article shakes the trees and gets the facts exposed.

Let's hope that happens this time, but for now what we have is opinion.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

Hey, the world of online is more demanding than print by far, in terms of how much copy one must produce. It's finite, the number of in-depth or investigative articles you can do, sourced via 25, 50 or 100 interviews, determining the rankings of teams that pulled the plugs vs. wanted to play on, etcetera. Sometimes it's useful to offer up some specifics and insights, get it published while the topic is current, and in doing so, shake the tree and make more nuts and monkeys fall out.

upprdeck

world juniors getting cancelled helps mich solve one problem.

hopefully the wave goes thru by jan and we see less issues going towards spring end of the season.

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckas it is we will be short several players this weekend.
Oh?

jeff '84

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckas it is we will be short several players this weekend.
Oh?

From Coach's Happy Holidays Letter

...I am sure that many of you had a similar holiday as our team. Some of you were able to be with family, a few were quarantined from family and friends, and many had a mixture of both.  It is during these days we are reminded how important family is, as people rightfully gravitate towards family both during celebration and during tough times.  Cornell Hockey is very similar.  On campus the bond the players develop over a four year period is very close.  Our close college friends know who we really are because  they have seen us celebrate our highs, and help us through our lows as we mature during our college years.  That bond is enhanced through college athletics and the pressure that exists to perform and improve and reach our team and individual goals.  I think we have all appreciated our college friends on a much different level.
 
Our team has done well in the first half of the season, going 9-1-1.  We have started to develop that bond already.  We can look inconsistent at times, as we face new situations almost every game, with 14 players who have never played college hockey and 9 more who are in their second year.  As we enter the next half of the season, we will need to overcome the inactivity since our last game.  We had a few practices in early December and then gave our team 4 days off to prepare for exams.  As many of you know, after the spike of Covid hit much of Cornell's student population around December 11th, we didn't have much of an opportunity to practice as a team.  Our team wasn't able to fully avoid the increase in cases, and several team members tested positive.  Fortunately many of us experienced mild or no symptoms.

Now comes the fun of preparing for Arizona State and North Dakota on the road. We will be missing some players for Arizona, but hopefully will have everyone ready to take on North Dakota.  I have a feeling that this team could evolve over the second half of our season but they will need to work hard at it during practice in the New Year.  I have been very impressed with the composure of this group to stay with our process when things are going to plan.  This trait will serve us well in the 2022!

laserwhisperer

Slightly off-topic, but how does one get added to the coach's mailing list?

upprdeck


jtwcornell91

Quote from: TrotskyGood article.  This shocked me:

QuoteForfeits don't count towards the Pairwise. At least they haven't in the past, when it comes to things like using illegal players.

The fuck is the ostensible reason for that?

That's pretty much always been the case in college sports.  Some years ago, Penn retroactively forfeited a bunch of football games, including one to us, and all that happened was the loss disappeared from our record.  I think the logic is that if you managed to win an unfair game, you should get credit for that, but if you lost you just don't get penalized for it.  (I don't know how that applies to ties and overtime wins.)  The team doing the forfeiting has to drop their wins but keep their losses, so they usually get eliminated.

Also, when UVM cancelled their season because of the Elephant Walk, the unplayed games just disappeared from the schedule, and did not count as forfeit wins for their would-be opponents.

Weder

Quote from: laserwhispererSlightly off-topic, but how does one get added to the coach's mailing list?

I assume I'm on it because I donate money to the team.
3/8/96

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: TrotskyGood article.  This shocked me:

QuoteForfeits don't count towards the Pairwise. At least they haven't in the past, when it comes to things like using illegal players.

The fuck is the ostensible reason for that?

That's pretty much always been the case in college sports.  Some years ago, Penn retroactively forfeited a bunch of football games, including one to us, and all that happened was the loss disappeared from our record.  I think the logic is that if you managed to win an unfair game, you should get credit for that, but if you lost you just don't get penalized for it.  (I don't know how that applies to ties and overtime wins.)  The team doing the forfeiting has to drop their wins but keep their losses, so they usually get eliminated.

Also, when UVM cancelled their season because of the Elephant Walk, the unplayed games just disappeared from the schedule, and did not count as forfeit wins for their would-be opponents.

I don't want the forfeit wins to count.  I want the forfeit losses to.

Trotsky

Quote from: laserwhispererSlightly off-topic, but how does one get added to the coach's mailing list?
Boosters are on it.  I thought season ticket holders too.