Clarkson Game Thread

[Robb]

absolutely complete meltdown

lucky me.  I was finally able to start watching about 30 seconds before Clarkson's first goal.

Fugly.

[redice]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

[scoop85]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

I can't think of a worse one during Mike's tenure. My guess is the worst one in Cornell history given its importance would be the 1973 NCAA semifinal against Wisconsin, which was before my time.

[Rita]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

Is this a bus ride home where they are only taking off their skates? They did that once after a horrible loss v. Army (back in the 90's??).

I was thinking with the face off with 4.7 sec left, just tie up the center.  Don't try to win it - just make sure Clarkson doesn't control it. UGH.

And the long delay for the stupid penalty shot was BS - just get on with the farce.

[jtwcornell91]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

Is this a bus ride home where they are only taking off their skates? They did that once after a horrible loss v. Army (back in the 90's??).

I just told my wife that story. :-/

[jtwcornell91]

Was I seeing double before the penalty.  Looked like 4 Cornell players on the ice.

It becomes 4x4 after 2 minutes of OT

When you watch the replay the announcer said it was because the players called for roughing at the end of regulation came out at the end of their penalties to make it 4x4.

By that logic if there had been matching minors in regulation with the refs calling for the play to be 5x5 during the penalties then at the end of the penalty time they should come out and play 6x6.

This foolish 3x3 shit is a big turd on shaved ice.

I'm pretty sure the rule is that when a 4x3 power play ends in OT, the penalized player gets back on the ice, and they play 4x4 until the next whistle, when it goes back to 3x3.

[Trotsky]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

In the Schafer era, I nominate the final game in 1999.  This was game 2 of a first to 3 points QF series at Princeton.  We had come from behind to tie in the first game and had a 4-1 lead halfway through the deciding game.  Then, this.

However, tonight blows that away.  I have added it to the Pantheon.

[Trotsky]

absolutely complete meltdown

lucky me.  I was finally able to start watching about 30 seconds before Clarkson's first goal.

Target acquired.

[Trotsky]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

Is this a bus ride home where they are only taking off their skates? They did that once after a horrible loss v. Army (back in the 90's??).

Mike was talking to us about that once and said he will never do that again because he had to sit on that bus the entire ride.

[RichH]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

It didn't come at the end of the game, but I think the last time we played at Meehan, a bad Brown team scored 3 in under 60 seconds to tie about midway through the 3rd, and the game ended 3-3. That was pretty frustrating and shocking.

Someone correct me if my memory messed up any details.

Edit: Feb. 2019. Early in the 3rd.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20190215/cor/brn/

[Chris '03]

Is this the worst collapse in Cornell Hockey history or at least during Mike's tenure?

It didn't come at the end of the game, but I think the last time we played at Meehan, a bad Brown team scored 3 in under 60 seconds to tie about midway through the 3rd, and the game ended 3-3. That was pretty frustrating and shocking.

Someone correct me if my memory messed up any details.

Edit: Feb. 2019. Early in the 3rd.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20190215/cor/brn/

There was also a home game against Princeton ten or so years ago when a 1-0 lead became a 2-1 loss in the closing minute or two. That came to mind tonight.

[marty]

Was I seeing double before the penalty.  Looked like 4 Cornell players on the ice.

It becomes 4x4 after 2 minutes of OT

When you watch the replay the announcer said it was because the players called for roughing at the end of regulation came out at the end of their penalties to make it 4x4.

By that logic if there had been matching minors in regulation with the refs calling for the play to be 5x5 during the penalties then at the end of the penalty time they should come out and play 6x6.

This foolish 3x3 shit is a big turd on shaved ice.

I'm pretty sure the rule is that when a 4x3 power play ends in OT, the penalized player gets back on the ice, and they play 4x4 until the next whistle, when it goes back to 3x3.

Right, but I'm talking about before the OT penalty.  I swear I saw 4 red jerseys on the ice right before the penalty was called.  So when they were resurfacing I tried to replay that (though on a tablet with other people talking on the room.)

I'm pretty sure the announcer said that the 2 in the box for roughing at the end of regulation were going to make it 4x4 when the penalties expired.

That also makes sense to me as it coincides with what I thought I saw just before the penalty.  In real time I wasn't listening to the announcer and I thought we had too many men on the ice.

But logically it makes no sense to me.  If we're playing goofy 3x3 gladiator hockey why not wait until the next whistle to release the 2 in the box for roughing?  

We can watch the replay soon for those of us who want to self-flaggelate by reliving this minor disaster. (I know I might be all wet in this.)

[arugula]

9-1-1 at the break. Better than expected.

[BearLover]

The first Clarkson goal was bad goaltending. You cannot give up anything from that angle.

The second Clarkson goal was a defensive breakdown. A Clarkson player was left wide open in the slot streaking to the net.

The third Clarkson goal was off a rebound where a player in the slot was again not picked up.

The fourth Clarkson goal was hard to see off the replay, but it looked like McDonald should have saved the initial shot and then a Clarkson player skated in behind him to tap in the rebound completely unimpeded.

So, a combination of bad goaltending and defensive breakdowns. But this is a team that has been prone to bad goaltending and defensive breakdowns this season.

Frankly, the #9 ranking was a joke. This team has done nothing to earn it. Coming into this weekend, they were 5-1-3 against terrible opposition. Maybe the voters felt bad that Cornell got jobbed out of a #1 overall seed two years ago?

In any event, Clarkson is a much better team. Cornell almost stole a win anyway, but they blew it. Despite the way it went down, you can't really be angry at the goaltending (Cornell's star goalie transferred), the defensive lapses (young team, didn't play last season, totally gassed by the end of the game) or the coaching (what the hell are they supposed to do, given the above?). It's an overall crappy situation that everyone is trying to make the best of. I think the fans and the poll voters were fooled by Cornell's "8-1" start, which was a figment of bad opposition and new OT rules, not an indication the team is actually good.

[Dafatone]

The first Clarkson goal was bad goaltending. You cannot give up anything from that angle.

The second Clarkson goal was a defensive breakdown. A Clarkson player was left wide open in the slot streaking to the net.

The third Clarkson goal was off a rebound where a player in the slot was again not picked up.

The fourth Clarkson goal was hard to see off the replay, but it looked like McDonald should have saved the initial shot and then a Clarkson player skated in behind him to tap in the rebound completely unimpeded.

So, a combination of bad goaltending and defensive breakdowns. But this is a team that has been prone to bad goaltending and defensive breakdowns this season.

Frankly, the #9 ranking was a joke. This team has done nothing to earn it. Coming into this weekend, they were 5-1-3 against terrible opposition. Maybe the voters felt bad that Cornell got jobbed out of a #1 overall seed two years ago?

In any event, Clarkson is a much better team. Cornell almost stole a win anyway, but they blew it. Despite the way it went down, you can't really be angry at the goaltending (Cornell's star goalie transferred), the defensive lapses (young team, didn't play last season, totally gassed by the end of the game) or the coaching (what the hell are they supposed to do, given the above?). It's an overall crappy situation that everyone is trying to make the best of. I think the fans and the poll voters were fooled by Cornell's "8-1" start, which was a figment of bad opposition and new OT rules, not an indication the team is actually good.

We're not 5-1-3. We don't have three OT losses. We outplayed Clarkson for 50 minutes. Our best goalie was out.

Deep breaths, everyone.