Polls

[dbilmes]

An 11-goal outburst will impress the voters!

[ajh258]

Poll are basically 90% wrong this point in the year, and RPI was abysmally bad this weekend.

We probably should be somewhere lower like where we are on Pairwise. We also haven't played Quinnipiac, Clarkson, and ND.

That said, the performance has been above expectations so far. This is still among the top half of teams under Schafer era.

[nshapiro]

Poll are basically 90% wrong this point in the year, and RPI was abysmally bad this weekend.

We probably should be somewhere lower like where we are on Pairwise. We also haven't played Quinnipiac, Clarkson, and ND.

That said, the performance has been above expectations so far. This is still among the top half of teams under Schafer era.

Given that Schafer teams have made the NCAA tourney in over half of his seasons as coach, I would gladly take that.

[upprdeck]

NDak would really help the PW this yr not much help from Alas/BU/Ariz st

[Trotsky]

NDak would really help the PW this yr not much help from Alas/BU/Ariz st

Does connectivity still mean anything?  If so then that single game v BU might matter in close HE comparisons.

[CU2007]

NDak would really help the PW this yr not much help from Alas/BU/Ariz st

Does connectivity still mean anything?  If so then that single game v BU might matter in close HE comparisons.

Yep, for Pairwise reasons we want to beat BU and then have them tear through Hockey East

[Dafatone]

NDak would really help the PW this yr not much help from Alas/BU/Ariz st

Does connectivity still mean anything?  If so then that single game v BU might matter in close HE comparisons.

Yep, for Pairwise reasons we want to beat BU and then have them tear through Hockey East

As I understand it, the Pairwise tiebreaker is RPI, so unless both head to head AND common opponents add up to enough to beat out RPI, RPI is all that matters.

Which means that unless we play a team head to head, RPI is all that matters. So for all those Hockey East teams we don't play, if we win RPI and lose common opponents, we win.

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

[CU2007]

NDak would really help the PW this yr not much help from Alas/BU/Ariz st

Does connectivity still mean anything?  If so then that single game v BU might matter in close HE comparisons.

Yep, for Pairwise reasons we want to beat BU and then have them tear through Hockey East

As I understand it, the Pairwise tiebreaker is RPI, so unless both head to head AND common opponents add up to enough to beat out RPI, RPI is all that matters.

Which means that unless we play a team head to head, RPI is all that matters. So for all those Hockey East teams we don't play, if we win RPI and lose common opponents, we win.

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

Right, I meant the Pairwise rankings which I agree are essentially just an RPI ranking. But our RPI is better if BU does well except against us, right?

[billhoward]

A win and an OT win did little for Cornell's poll standings Nov. 22

USCHO/Coaches:  Cornell falls from 9 to 10. Notre Dame, winner of 2 from #1 Michigan (in OT, both), jumped from 15 to 8; Western Michigan went from 13 to 7 (swept #2 St. Cloud State); and Nebraska Omaha went from 10 to 9.
https://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/

USA Today/Hockey Magazine: Cornel remains at #10.
https://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/

[Swampy]

A win and an OT win did little for Cornell's poll standings Nov. 22

USCHO/Coaches:  Cornell falls from 9 to 10. Notre Dame, winner of 2 from #1 Michigan (in OT, both), jumped from 15 to 8; Western Michigan went from 13 to 7 (swept #2 St. Cloud State); and Nebraska Omaha went from 10 to 9.
https://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/

USA Today/Hockey Magazine: Cornel remains at #10.
https://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/

Our drop in the polls may reflect the impressive showings by ND, WM, and NO more than Cornell's performance. I believe if we had beaten and tied Michigan we would have moved up.

[upprdeck]

we get our shot at UND.  just a split will be good for us.

[billhoward]

Hockey polls Monday 11/29/21

Cornell 9 was 9 -- USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll

Cornell 9 was 10 -- USCHO

Cornell is the only one-loss team in the top 20. Cornell is also one of only two schools without double-digit wins (St. Cloud is 9-5, Cornell is 8-1-0)

ECAC teams in the USCHO Top 20: Q , Cornell 9, Harvard 17, Clarkson 19. BU did not receive votes.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1/uschocom

[billhoward]

Is there penalty for failure to succeed any more? Cornell's poll standings are unchanged for 12/5 in wake of the Saturday night collapse:

* 9th in USA Today/Hockey magazine was 9th
* 9th in USCHO was 9th

Quinnipiac meanwhile moves up to #2, behind Minnesota State.
Harvard deservedly loses a couple spots after losing to Brown.
Clarkson deservedly moves up a spot.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1/uschocom

[Dafatone]

Is there penalty for failure to succeed any more? Cornell's poll standings are unchanged for 12/5 in wake of the Saturday night collapse:

* 9th in USA Today/Hockey magazine was 9th
* 9th in USCHO was 9th

Quinnipiac meanwhile moves up to #2, behind Minnesota State.
Harvard deservedly loses a couple spots after losing to Brown.
Clarkson deservedly moves up a spot.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d1/uschocom

In a vacuum, losing in a shootout (which is a tie as far as out of conference stuff like rankings is concerned) on the road against a ranked team isn't bad. And the rest of NCAA hockey is more used to seeing last-minute comebacks than we are.

[billhoward]

I know. There should still be a scarlet letter attached to blowing a 4 goal lead. In some cultures, the leader might turn to seppuku. (n/a to coaching football)