MSG: Red Hot Hockey

Started by Jim Hyla, November 10, 2019, 10:22:32 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

cu155

Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: osorojoA society mediated by juries of peers and by judges is infinitely preferable to a society mediated by lawyers. Harvard is currently rated #1 in the ECAC; Cornell is tied for second place. Betcha this ranking was done by lawyers, not juries of the people.

They're not "rated" #1. They've accumulated the most points in conference play so far, which they've done while playing in more conference games than Cornell has yet played. I think standings ought to be done by winning percentage instead of points because it accounts for those "game in hand" situations, but it's not up to me - and things even out once the Beanpot is done anyway.

Ummm...not for ECAC standings. :)

Yes, for ECAC standings. One of the main reasons Hahvahd plays a different, more front-loaded in-conference schedule is to make room for the Beanpot. Been that way for years.

The original point was about Harvard being "rated" higher than Cornell. You correctly pointed out that they had played one more conference game than Cornell, which is why they show as being ahead of Cornell in the conference standings. The games Harvard loses in the Beanpot won't affect the conference standings.

And I didn't say they would. The schedule will normalize at that time, that's all.

Yes, we're saying the same thing. My response was to what I thought was a joke you were making about Harvard's perennial failure in the Beanpot, which of course we both know will not affect ECAC standings. I now realize you weren't making that joke.

Can't we just all agree that Harvard sucks.

andyw2100

Quote from: cu155
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: osorojoA society mediated by juries of peers and by judges is infinitely preferable to a society mediated by lawyers. Harvard is currently rated #1 in the ECAC; Cornell is tied for second place. Betcha this ranking was done by lawyers, not juries of the people.

They're not "rated" #1. They've accumulated the most points in conference play so far, which they've done while playing in more conference games than Cornell has yet played. I think standings ought to be done by winning percentage instead of points because it accounts for those "game in hand" situations, but it's not up to me - and things even out once the Beanpot is done anyway.

Ummm...not for ECAC standings. :)

Yes, for ECAC standings. One of the main reasons Hahvahd plays a different, more front-loaded in-conference schedule is to make room for the Beanpot. Been that way for years.

The original point was about Harvard being "rated" higher than Cornell. You correctly pointed out that they had played one more conference game than Cornell, which is why they show as being ahead of Cornell in the conference standings. The games Harvard loses in the Beanpot won't affect the conference standings.

And I didn't say they would. The schedule will normalize at that time, that's all.

Yes, we're saying the same thing. My response was to what I thought was a joke you were making about Harvard's perennial failure in the Beanpot, which of course we both know will not affect ECAC standings. I now realize you weren't making that joke.

Can't we just all agree that Harvard sucks.

That goes without saying.

Trotsky

Quote from: andyw2100The games Harvard loses in the Beanpot won't affect the conference standings.

I see what you did there.

dbilmes

The BU coach was suspended for one game this weekend for his behavior after his team's loss to UMass last weekend. It was apparently due to the way he acted toward a UMass employee.

JasonN95

ESPN+ does not have the game on the calendar, but am I remembering correctly that it was picked up for streaming last year? Anyone know what is planned this year?

upprdeck

still no plans for tv at this time

Mark

Given Cornell's improved offensive output, coupled with BU's overall youth and somewhat shaky defense early in the season, looks like it adds up to a 4-1 Cornell win from here.
BU fan

Robb

I was wondering who was tempting the Hockey Gods....then I realized who it was.  Nice to see you, Mark!

What a lot of people are missing with this year's Cornell team is the defensive strength - it's masked by our gaudy offensive numbers and our lousy PK percentage (77%).  Even strength, we've only given up 5 goals in 8 games.  If we had a top 20 kill (85%), our GAA would be 1.25.  Top 10 (90%) and we'd be at a ridiculous 1.0 GAA.  If we can get the PK coached up....look out.
Let's Go RED!

Trotsky

I thought the kill looked good last weekend.  You know Mike will get them there.

They appear to have struck a balance between playing in a disciplined system but also having room to play an up tempo, fun style that showcases their talents.  That's the kind of a program that future good players will want to join.

We will always have a leg up on tradition and on understanding players' culture.  What is Ithaca but Southern Ontario?  What we need is a prolonged period of success to breed additional success, and it sure looks like Mike and his assistants have gotten that virtuous cycle going.

scoop85

Quote from: TrotskyI thought the kill looked good last weekend.  You know Mike will get them there.

They appear to have struck a balance between playing in a disciplined system but also having room to play an up tempo, fun style that showcases their talents.  That's the kind of a program that future good players will want to join.

We will always have a leg up on tradition and on understanding players' culture.  What is Ithaca but Southern Ontario?  What we need is a prolonged period of success to breed additional success, and it sure looks like Mike and his assistants have gotten that virtuous cycle going.

ECAC fans have always said of Schafer's teams, "yeah they win, but they're boring."  Since this year's junior class arrived on the scene (and maybe a year earlier with Kaldis and Malott), that criticism is out the window.  We are now playing a high-paced game that is a joy to watch, without compromising much on the defensive side of things. And having a goalie like Galajda makes it a bit easier for his mates to take chances.

jeff '84

Quote from: upprdeckstill no plans for tv at this time

Noticed this when I was accessing the CU/Navy basketball game. So possibly here?

https://watchstadium.com/?s=Cornell

abmarks

Quote from: jeff '84
Quote from: upprdeckstill no plans for tv at this time

Noticed this when I was accessing the CU/Navy basketball game. So possibly here?

https://watchstadium.com/?s=Cornell

Good catch-it's on their schedule page

JasonN95

Quote from: jeff '84
Quote from: upprdeckstill no plans for tv at this time

Noticed this when I was accessing the CU/Navy basketball game. So possibly here?

https://watchstadium.com/?s=Cornell

Thanks. There's an app, but apparently it can't stream the service's premium content (at least on iOS) which I assume the MSG game will be, so you need to use its web browser interface.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: jeff '84
Quote from: upprdeckstill no plans for tv at this time

Noticed this when I was accessing the CU/Navy basketball game. So possibly here?

https://watchstadium.com/?s=Cornell

Thanks. There's an app, but apparently it can't stream the service's premium content (at least on iOS) which I assume the MSG game will be, so you need to use its web browser interface.
Roku, maybe?
Al DeFlorio '65

Chris '03

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: JasonN95
Quote from: jeff '84
Quote from: upprdeckstill no plans for tv at this time

Noticed this when I was accessing the CU/Navy basketball game. So possibly here?

https://watchstadium.com/?s=Cornell

Thanks. There's an app, but apparently it can't stream the service's premium content (at least on iOS) which I assume the MSG game will be, so you need to use its web browser interface.
Roku, maybe?

I think Colgate(?) used stadium pre-espn+ and the roku app worked to stream it. I know I've watched cornell at least once that way.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."