Polls 2019-20

[Trotsky]

FWIW, CHN has us at #9.

Thanks.

Here is their prediction and the Cornell blurb:

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1. Minn-Duluth
 2. Denver
 3. Minn-Mankato
 4. Notre Dame
 5. BC
 6. Massachusetts
 7. Providence
 8. Penn State
 9. [color=#d61616]Cornell[/color]
10. Clarkson
 

Ravaged by injuries for most of the 2018-19 season, Cornell still enjoyed a remarkable year. A regular-season ECAC title, playoff championship game appearance and NCAA tournament bid (and one win) were all well-earned. And most of the players that made Cornell successful last season return to Ithaca for another chance to get the Big Red back to the Frozen Four. Mitch Vanderlaan was an important presence for Cornell even if his production is ultimately replaceable. Morgan Barron will be looked upon to make a leap offensively. Matt Nuttle and Alex McCrea played big minutes on the blue line and will be missed, but Yanni Kaldis, Alex Green and goalie Matt Galajda return. And Mike Schafer has repeatedly shown an ability to plug and play with his lineup and system. This year will be no different.

[Trotsky]

It's interesting that we made jumps from the final 2019 poll in both USCHO (8 to 5) and USA Hockey (10 to 5) while nobody else did except BC.  Maybe it signifies us holding our place while other schools lost significant strength and dropped below us.  Maybe it indicates that we have a larger number of players who are expected to blossom.  It could be the freshman class but while they look strong I don't think they are that heralded.

[Jim Hyla]

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[b]USCHO Division I Men's Poll - October 7, 2019[/b]
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Minnesota Duluth(39) 0-0-0 978 1
2 Denver        (10) 2-0-0 927 2
3 Minnesota State (1) 0-0-0 844 3
4 Massachusetts 0-0-0 767 4
[b][u]5 Cornell        0-0-0 747 5[/u][/b]
6 Providence 1-0-0 651 7
7 St. Cloud 0-0-0 630 6
8 Notre Dame 0-0-0 550 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 0-0-0 528 8[/u][/b]
10 Boston College 0-0-0 522 11
[b][u]11 Clarkson 0-0-0 510 10[/u][/b]
12 Ohio State 0-0-0 460 12
13 Penn State 0-0-0 436 13
14 Western Michigan 0-0-0 375 14
15 Northeastern 0-0-0 302 15
16 Wisconsin 0-0-0 286 16
17 Bowling Green 1-0-0 258 17
18 North Dakota 0-0-0 153 18
[b][u]19 Harvard        0-0-0 114 19[/u][/b]
20 Boston University 1-0-0 95 NR

Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 83, AIC 80, Minnesota 53,
Michigan 45, Arizona State 40, Lake Superior 18, [b][u]Brown 12[/u][/b],
Northern Michigan 12, Colorado College 7, Michigan Tech 7,
[b][u]Dartmouth 5[/u][/b], Mercyhurst 2, Niagara 2, Air Force 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 7, 2019
Team             Points  (First) Last Poll Record

1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 495 (33) 1 0-0-0
2 University of Denver 448 2 2-0-0
3 Minnesota State Univer  358 4 0-0-0
[b][u]4 Cornell University 327 5 0-0-0[/u][/b]
5 Univer Massachusetts 318 3 0-0-0
6 Boston College        283 7 0-0-0
7 Providence College 253 6 1-0-0
8 St Cloud State Univer   218 8 0-0-0
9 University of Notre Dame216 10 0-0-0
10 Penn State University 204 9 0-0-0
[b][u]11 Clarkson University 180 12 0-0-0[/u][/b]
12 Western Michigan Univer 134 15 0-0-0
[b][u]13 Quinnipiac University 128 11 0-0-0[/u][/b]
14 Ohio State University 121 13 0-0-0
15 University of Wisconsin 96 NR 0-0-0

Others receiving votes: Northeastern 67, Bowling Green 31, [b][u]Harvard 22[/u][/b],
Minnesota 18, North Dakota 12, Boston University 12, UMass Lowell 10,
Arizona State 4, [b][u]Brown 4[/u][/b], American International 2.

[b]USCHO Division I Women's Poll - October 7, 2019[/b]
Rnk Team      (First) Record Points Last Poll

1 Wisconsin (15) 4-0-0 150 1
2 Minnesota 4-0-0 134 2
3 Northeastern 1-0-0 110 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 3-1-0 107 3
5 Cornell        0-0-0 75 5
6 Princeton 0-0-0 73 6[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 4-0-0 54 7
8 Ohio State 4-0-0 52 9
9 Minnesota Duluth 1-1-0 31 10
10 Boston University 1-0-0 29 8

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 5, [b][u]Harvard 2[/u][/b],
Syracuse 1, [b][u]Colgate 1[/u][/b], Mercyhurst 1


[billhoward]

We start the season fifth in the polls. Same argument as previous years: Cornell plays hard and sometimes moves up. Cornell doesn't play - late start to the season, or over the semester break - and we always move up. Plus no injuries with that strategy. In those no-games periods, maybe ESPN can create Deepfake games where we play Harvard and win every one in an exciting come from behind.

[Trotsky]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

[marty]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker.  (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

[Trotsky]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker.  (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.  :-(

[ursusminor]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker.  (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.  :-(

But RPI didn't make the list. ;-)

[marty]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker.  (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.  :-(

But RPI didn't make the list. ;-)

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.::banana::

[upprdeck]

Colgate did not look very good vs RIT sat night.

[Trotsky]

ECAC teams seem to struggle in early games against power conference opponents.  For Ivies this makes sense -- Ivy game n is often non-Ivy opponent's game n + 4.  Those differences are most pronounced early.  It doesn't explain non-Ivy ECAC members' struggles.

[Jim Hyla]

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[b]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 8, 2019[/b]
Team              Points  (First) Last Poll Record

1 University of Wisconsin 190 (19) 1 4-0-0
2 University of Minnesota 171 2 4-0-0
3 Northeastern University 140 4 1-0-0
[b][u]4 Clarkson University 135 3 3-1-0
5 Cornell University 90 5 0-0-0
6 Princeton University 83 6 0-0-0[/u][/b]
7 Boston College        71 7 4-0-0
8 Ohio State University 68 8 4-0-0
9 Univer Minnesota Duluth 56 10 1-1-0
10 Boston University 34 9 1-0-0

Others receiving votes: [b][u]Harvard 3[/u][/b], Robert Morris 3,
[b][u]Colgate 2[/u][/b], Mercyhurst 2.



[ursusminor]

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker.  (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.  :-(

But RPI didn't make the list. ;-)

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.::banana::

Agreed.

[Trotsky]

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.::banana::

Not just losing.  Losing 5-0 and 7-3.

[marty]

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.::banana::

Not just losing.  Losing 5-0 and 7-3.

Trotsky, twice in one week?  ::bugeye::
The Army score was Army 3, Union 2 (after Union going up 2-1 on a SHG).