Wrestling 2019-20

[scoop85]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

[cu155]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

[RichH]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

Now wouldn't that be a kick if this were the link between losing a possible epic season for CU sports. (Don't worry, I'm nowhere close to serious.) But that's a nice plotline for a movie.

[klehner]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

A columnist for the NYTimes wrote this today:

When I was sidelined with the flu in January, I thought nothing of it, until it degenerated into one of the weirdest and most painful bouts of flu I have ever had. There were fever spikes, aches, nausea, lack of smell, a persistent dry cough — all of which were later flagged as key symptoms of Covid-19. I recovered after three truly awful weeks of debilitating illness. Once the coronavirus was in full swing, I wondered if I had been an early victim.

She just got tested for antibodies, and it returned negative.  Getting a bad flu isn't getting COVID-19.

[cu155]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

A columnist for the NYTimes wrote this today:

When I was sidelined with the flu in January, I thought nothing of it, until it degenerated into one of the weirdest and most painful bouts of flu I have ever had. There were fever spikes, aches, nausea, lack of smell, a persistent dry cough — all of which were later flagged as key symptoms of Covid-19. I recovered after three truly awful weeks of debilitating illness. Once the coronavirus was in full swing, I wondered if I had been an early victim.

She just got tested for antibodies, and it returned negative.  Getting a bad flu isn't getting COVID-19.

I'm pretty sure we all agree with you...

[Jim Hyla]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

A columnist for the NYTimes wrote this today:

When I was sidelined with the flu in January, I thought nothing of it, until it degenerated into one of the weirdest and most painful bouts of flu I have ever had. There were fever spikes, aches, nausea, lack of smell, a persistent dry cough — all of which were later flagged as key symptoms of Covid-19. I recovered after three truly awful weeks of debilitating illness. Once the coronavirus was in full swing, I wondered if I had been an early victim.

She just got tested for antibodies, and it returned negative.  Getting a bad flu isn't getting COVID-19.

Except you have to look at what's the false negative rate on the test.

I have no idea what test was done, but I've heard some reports of 5-10%.

That may seem huge, but false positive on antibodies is much more important, at least for now.

You don't want to tell someone they have antibodies when they don't. Human nature means they won't be as careful.

False negative doesn't have same effect.

[marty]

tons of people who had the flu shot at work complained after xmas break of something they couldnt shake.

I'm with Jim on this as my boss and I were sick in January.  I did 4 straight days in bed in order to recover.

I have no idea if it might have been C19 and thus want to be tested.

My wife reminded me that back in July I had a fever that ran for a good 5 days; maybe I'm patient zero (well, I didn't eat any bats as I far as I know) :-P

I do wonder.  Last year in Asia there were a high number of unidentified pneumonia cases going around that doctors were having trouble treating.  My fiance and I both had it and it was by far the sickest I've ever been (worse by far than swine flu or previous pneumonia that I've had).  It makes me think that perhaps there was a precursor/earlier version of C19 floating around China that was already doing bad things in humans which subsequently got worse.  Will be interesting to see what antibody tests say when they become widely available.  I knew we should have skipped the pangolin steak .

A columnist for the NYTimes wrote this today:

When I was sidelined with the flu in January, I thought nothing of it, until it degenerated into one of the weirdest and most painful bouts of flu I have ever had. There were fever spikes, aches, nausea, lack of smell, a persistent dry cough — all of which were later flagged as key symptoms of Covid-19. I recovered after three truly awful weeks of debilitating illness. Once the coronavirus was in full swing, I wondered if I had been an early victim.

She just got tested for antibodies, and it returned negative.  Getting a bad flu isn't getting COVID-19.

Except you have to look at what's the false negative rate on the test.

I have no idea what test was done, but I've heard some reports of 5-10%.

That may seem huge, but false positive on antibodies is much more important, at least for now.

You don't want to tell someone they have antibodies when they don't. Human nature means they won't be as careful.

False negative doesn't have same effect.

Furthermore,  the fact that one person who was infected didn't have the Covid19 virus is by definition an anecdote.

[ugarte]

Hey a quick wrestling note...

the National Wrestling Coaches Association, which traditionally awards All-American honors to the top 8 finishers at NCAAs, this year gave the honors to the top 8 seeds based on their body of work over the course of the season. Congratulations to Cornell's two 2020 All-Americans, Chas Tucker and Ben Darmstadt.

Chas Tucker '20 was a three-year starter at 133, 3x All-Ivy (including a 15-0 record in Ivy duals) and a 3x NCAA qualifier. In three trips to the EIWA conference tournament, he finished 2nd, 1st and 1st. In his senior season he went 32-0 with nine wins over ranked opponents and was heading into the NCAA tournament as the #3 seed. He finished his career at Cornell 82-18. Additionally, in the offseason as a rising Senior, Tucker qualified for the USA's team for the U23 World Championship represented at 61kg. He was also my son's favorite Cornell wrestler, and was incredibly nice when we said hi after the 2019 Columbia dual. Good luck to him in whatever comes next.

Ben Darmstadt '22 (maybe '21...) is now an All-American for the second time. After an All-American freshman campaign at 197, Darmstadt took a year off to have and recover from back surgery. Darmstadt started the year at 184 but found the weight cut sapped his energy and returned to 197. At 197, he went 15-2 (including a loss by injury default that he was winning handily) won his second EIWA title. earned his second All-Ivy honor and qualified for his second NCAA tournament, entering seeded 4th. Even his time at 184 is unfairly maligned; he went 13-4, with three of his losses to first-team All-Americans. Darmstadt has two years of eligibility remaining and the best is to come.

[mountainred]

Was wondering what they were going to do about AA.  Great for Chas, even though that's not the way he (or anyone) would have wanted it.  The young man deserved to call himself an All-American.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Just saw this on our local TV station's webpage.

Sounds like he'll be a frosh in '21-'22.

[billhoward]

Brett Ungar ~'25 is from "Notre Dame Green Pond"? Makes one think of fertilizer runoff and algae.

[ugarte]

Ungar is going to be part of a logjam at the lower weights. An embarrassment of riches.

While waiting to find out if a season even happens or for Koll's preseason email... the Flo preseason rankings came out with Cornell #2 - but a distant #2 to Iowa. Here are the individual ranked wrestlers:

125 - SO Vito Arujau #3 coming off an Olympic redshirt in 2020. Arujau was #4 in 2019, finishing ahead of Princeton's Pat Glory who is currently ranked #2. They split their H2H matches. 2020 National Qualifier Dom LaJoie will back him up. Originally people expected Greg D. to skip his greyshirt but apparently he is not coming straight to Cornell.

133 - With Tucker graduated, 133 up for grabs and we don't have a ranked wrestler. Maybe LaJoie bumps up. Maybe JJ Wilson or Philip Moomey.

141 - JR Yianni Diakomihalis #1 is also coming off an Olympic year. 2x National Champion. I thought he was going to bump to 149 but now I'm not so sure. If the team is better with FR Joshua Saunders at 141 and Yianni at 149, we could see that instead.

149 - JR Hunter Richard #22 is a returning national qualifier. If Yianni bumps up, he sits.

157 - SO Colton Yapoujian #24 was cruising before getting injured last year. He probably takes the starting slot back from Adam Santoro.

165 - No ranked wrestler. Probably Andrew Berreyesa again, who I assume is working on attacking and defending legs.

174 - FR Chris Foca #17 looked great in his greyshirt year and is probably going to force Berreyesa to stay at 165.

184 - JR Max Dean #1 is back from his Olympic redshirt as well, after finishing #8 and #2 his first two years.

197 - JR Ben Darmstadt #2 will spend the whole season at his best weight where he is a 2x All-American and a pinning machine. If Jacob Cardenas comes to Cornell (and there are rumors that he won't) we have a very, very good backup.

285 - FR Lewis Fernandes #16 also had a very good greyshirt year. National Qualifier Brendan Furman will move to a backup role.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Brett Ungar ~'25 is from "Notre Dame Green Pond"? Makes one think of fertilizer runoff and algae.

Well, there actually is a Green Pond.  It's fairly nice with a private high school campus on three sides.  

OK, there's a corn field across the street, but the water usually overflows from the pond to the corn field.  ::whistle::

[Jim Hyla]

Brett Ungar ~'25 is from "Notre Dame Green Pond"? Makes one think of fertilizer runoff and algae.

Well, there actually is a Green Pond.  It's fairly nice with a private high school campus on three sides.  

OK, there's a corn field across the street, but the water usually overflows from the pond to the corn field.  ::whistle::

The highway designers sure made it difficult to drive the length of Green Pond Rd. I'm surprised one isn't called Green Pond Road Extension, or some other addition.

[klehner]

165 - No ranked wrestler. Probably Andrew Berreyesa again, who I assume is working on attacking and defending legs.

Don't forget Julian Ramirez.