Cornell vs. UNH scores and updates- spoilers inside

[the abbott fan]

oh come on cant we all just get along? avash is human (well im assuming) and he has opinions and tempers. im sure half of you agree with him, but probably feel like you have to chew him out cuz your pissed because we lost or something. but avash cooled off and apologized for being a little harsh so drop it ok...he has feelings and an opinion he can voice off and he shouldnt get screamed at by other fans. come on guys! we just lost a big game and the big red still need our support...stop argueing.
the abbott fan

[nobody@nowhere.com]

Author: n phoenix '12 (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date:   04-10-03 14:38

i can not believe this! they totally BLEW it! they had it all they were so prepared!! i cant believe this i am in shock......how could they do this? how could they blow there chance? where were their heads? how come they werent hitting??? I CAN NOT BELIEVE WE JUST LOST THAT GAME! i wish we could take it all back. i wish we could start all over. that was the worst hockey game i have ever seen. WHAT THE HELL WHERE THEY THINKING?!

that is sooo sad. i can not believe this.

the abbott fan


Maybe you agreed with him...
You have the right to your opinions...but to trash the team after a hard fought loss...that's just plain wrong.

[the abbott fan]

he was trashing the team....but thats because he was angry...and hes human and everyone does stuff like that when they are mad. he said he was sorry and you guys cant let it go. he's upset for them...avash probably wanted to win as much as cornell did. and thats where everything he said came from. let it go...
the abbott fan

[nobody@nowhere.com]

 ::screwy::

[scoop85]

A tough one to swallow.  Cornell had the territorial edge, clearly, but UNH played well in their zone, limiting our quality chances.  I think BC actually had better scoring chances in Providence, but today Lenny had a couple he would like back.

As a (fairly) old timer about to hit the 40 mark, I was fixated on following this team this team this year.  Seeing them win in Albany with my daughter was a night I will always treasure.  The disappointment from today will linger for awhile (I don't think I can watch the other game tonight, but I will probably watch on Saturday), and it is especially tough knowing that we were fully capable of winning it all -- reminds me of the '87 lax final at Rutgers where a hot Hopkins goalie stole one from us.

Best of luck to the seniors, and here's to hoping that it won't be another 23 years to the next Frozen Four (it seems the recruits we have coming in will certainly help maintain our physical style)!

[atb9]

Well said.  Cornell came out firing and it didn't result in a goal.  We had to fight back from a large deficit, a position that no team is good in, but did make it a close and exciting game.  I've been following Cornell hockey since the day I got accepted and it peaked perfectly for me.  We didn't win a national championship but I was thoroughly entertained this year and during my four years at Cornell, the team has reinforced my love for our school.

[Section A]

thanks abbott fan...and I am human :-P

[Section A]

I second the motion of letting it go. I do apologize for saying certain things while I, like everyone else, was very emotional. We could go on all day saying how I shouldn't have said this, or I shouldn't have said that. But let's not do that, and just move on.

And "nobody @nowhere," I really am not a facetimer. Think what you want though...

[nobody@nowhere.com]

You may not be a facetimer...but you are only a sophomore.  You haven't paid your dues enough to go around criticizing this team.

[Ninian \'72]

A bit of perspective from someone who was around during the 69-72 run:  There were some heartbreaking losses at the frozen four back then, too.  The truth is that all the teams left standing at this point are great and will all be giving 110%.  The games you see at this level won't be like what you see during the regular season.  It may look like our guys are choking, but they're facing a skilled opponent also playing like there's no tomorrow.  I would guess that any fan of any team yesterday would probably feel their guys were choking at some point during the game.  Did you see the look on the faces of Umile and his players on the TV feed as the game wound down, even in the last minute?  That was not a confident bunch.  

I spent some time at Michigan after Cornell and also follow their program and can tell you that I had that same gut reaction watching the Wolverines, that they weren't playing their best during parts of that game.  (A CU-UM final would have been awesome, but that's for another day.)  You need to do a reality check about what all four teams are facing, in these situations.  From the view of someone who watched two teams go down that I wanted to see win, Cornell was better disciplined, worked just as hard, and their power play was head and shoulders better than Michigan's.  Overall the guys played very well.  Games between teams of this quality won't be blowouts.  They'll be decided by the odd bounce of the puck, an untimely penalty, generally things you can't prepare for well.  If you played yesterday's games all over again today, it's just as likely you'd see an entirely different result as a repeat of yesterday.  

Schafer and the team have worked hard to elevate their level of play, and they are no flash in the pan.  They won't disappear for another 23 years.  The future is bright.

[CUlater]

You don't have to pay dues to criticize a hockey team; you just have to know what you're talking about (not that Avash does or doesn't).

In any case, at the rink, it was generally agreed among the fans to whom I spoke that while it may have been a bad break that the goal was waved off, the real impact was the long delay.  Someone mentioned it was five minutes, but at the rink it seemed like 20.  Prior to the delay, Cornell dominated play, so much so that the Maine fans I was sitting near were gasping with appreciation at the puckhandling and physical game we were playing.  In fact, right before the non-goal, one of them said to me "I bet you couldn't be more happy with how things have gone so far".

The waving-off took some of the wind out of our sails, but more importantly, it was like an extended timeout for Umile to regroup his team.  And credit to him and his players for taking advantage of the delay.

There were some other bad calls (both ways, although the calls against Cornell seemed inevitably to lead to goals or scoring chances for UNH), but to say we were robbed is unfair.  Although not as powerful as last year, UNH is still a top team and just like last year, we showed we could play with them.  But the time for moral victories is past and the fact remains that we did not play our best game (other than in the opening of the first period), although some of that has to be credited to UNH which played a good defensive game.  Nevertheless, we had some good scoring chances and one or two of those could have turned the result around.

Many alums have lived through this before, although on a less-grand stage. The ECACs in '89-'92 (and the NCAAs in '91) were full of games where it seemed like we were inches away from taking that next step and due to one thing or another, we just couldn't get it done.  The fans went home frustrated, just like last year in the NCAA quarterfinals and yesterday in the NCAA semis.  And so, for me, yesterday was like a flashback to those ECAC games in Boston Garden.

Just as in the past, we feel bad for ourselves and bad for the seniors who will never have a chance to take that next step.  And we worry about next season and the seasons after that and wonder if Cornell will be able to make it back this far, so they again have the chance to take that next step.  But in wondering that, it's important to remember the effort it took to make it this far this year, and to appreciate it.

And I also agree with what Ninian '72 wrote, about how games this time of the year are inevitably going to be close.



Post Edited (04-11-03 10:16)

[Tom Hamill \'85]

What irritated me (sitting at home in Colorado watching the game, so who am I to cast stones?) wasn't the play on ice, but our FANS.

We can't change our team, but we can change ourselves.  Us Lynah Faithful need to yell loud when we're up.  But we frickin' need to yell and cheer LOUDER when we're down.  We need to support our team even more then.  Of course it's tough in an arena where the Faithful are all spread out, but us fans have to overcome a little adversity too and just YELL YELL YELL and support our team.  We are the Lynah ***FAITHFUL***

I am beyond grateful for the effort the '03 team put in.  You saw the best season ever by a college goaltender this year, and I hope when tempers cool you'll remember that.  What I saw in this game was a Cornell team that played hard, made one or two mistakes, and didn't have the bounces go their way.  We've won a few down the stretch by being on the lucky side of those bounces.   Not Thursday.  Oh, well, it doesn't take anything away from our marvelous players and hard-working coaches.

THANK YOU SENIORS!  THANK YOU SCHAFER!  THANK YOU LENEVEU!

[CUlater]

Tom:  There were numerous chants of "Let's Go Red" when we were down.  Perhaps they were hard to hear because the fans were so spread out, making the cheers sound sporadic.  And, quite frankly, the fans were "tight" -- it was indeed a very tense game to watch.  This phenomenom has happened many times in past neutral-site games.  It's easier to overcome that feeling when we all sit together and cheers can be coordinated.

Maybe we should adopt the English soccer fan approach (singing throughout the game, not rioting in the stands).

[jd212]

Yeah Tom I agree. I did not hear a peep out of the fans at all the entire game, and I was shocked. During the second game, both sides never kept their mouth shut.

[Section A]

Were the Faithful in attendance quieted significantly because UNH jumped out to that 3-0 lead?



Post Edited (04-11-03 12:06)