Bracketology 2019

Started by Swampy, January 24, 2019, 11:12:22 PM

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KenP

Quote from: ugarte
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Quote from: DafatoneRoot for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.
my interests are more morbid and we can definitely beat brown and still fall to 13th and out
Regardless of pairwise.... if they cannot find a way to work past Brown on Friday I will have little confidence in their ability to win games in the NC$$.  Our best bet for next week is to have a healthy Big Red team firing on all cylinders and on a 4-game winning streak.

andyw2100

Quote from: upprdeckbasically the higher we want to finish the more we want bad teams to win and our margin of error gets slimmer.

We wind up seventh with chalk and a single upset of Harvard over Clarkson.

ursusminor

A post on USCHO states that both the CHN and USCHO predictors treat the B1G and WCHA on campus tourney games as neutral site. The poster and I both wonder if this is correct. It, of course, can matter.

Swampy

Quote from: KenP
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Dafatone
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: DafatoneRoot for Clarkson over Harvard,

I realize that the post I am quoting is talking about what it takes to make sure we get into the tourney.

But if we prefer to root for the things that get is as high as possible in the pairwise, I believe we need to root for Harvard (ouch) over Clarkson.

Using Adam's "You Are The Committee" site, and selecting all the favorites, including Clarkson over Harvard, we wind up 8th in pairwise. Switch the Harvard and Clarkson result, so that we beat Harvard in the Championship game (always fun) and we wind up 7th in pairwise.

Absolute best finish is, somehow, 6th. There's a bunch that goes into it, but ND over Penn State and UMass not doing as well in Hockey East helps us against Ohio State. Northeastern losing in the semis or finals helps us pass Northeastern, and Denver would have to lose in both the semis and the consolation game in the NCHC. We pass Clarkson and ASU if we win out.
my interests are more morbid and we can definitely beat brown and still fall to 13th and out
Regardless of pairwise.... if they cannot find a way to work past Brown on Friday I will have little confidence in their ability to win games in the NC$$.  Our best bet for next week is to have a healthy Big Red team firing on all cylinders and on a 4-game in the middle of an 8-game winning streak.

FYP

Jim Hyla

Bracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out


[b]This week's brackets[/b]

[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
[u][b]12 Harvard[/b][/u] vs. 6 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 7 Ohio State

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]5 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
[b][u]9 Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 4[/u][/b]
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1


Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

marty

Quote from: Jim HylaBracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out


[b]This week's brackets[/b]

[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
[u][b]12 Harvard[/b][/u] vs. 6 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 7 Ohio State

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]5 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
[b][u]9 Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 4[/u][/b]
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1


Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

The only reason Q got ASU was to prevent an ECAC first round matchup.  Because it is extremely unlikely that 3 of the 4 teams that can be seeded against Q will be from our league,  this bracket is just a mental bubble gum chew for the nerd in us (me!).

5 won't often be matched with 10.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Beeeej

Quote from: Jim HylaBracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out


[b]This week's brackets[/b]

[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
[u][b]12 Harvard[/b][/u] vs. 6 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 7 Ohio State

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]5 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
[b][u]9 Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 4[/u][/b]
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1


Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

ugarte

Quote from: Jim HylaTime to feel sorry for Harvard
never

adamw

I did, in fact, fix a glitch this morning regarding neutral sites/Big Ten/WCHA ... may have to clear cache to make sure it goes into effect on the user end.
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Jim HylaBracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out


[b]This week's brackets[/b]

[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
[u][b]12 Harvard[/b][/u] vs. 6 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 7 Ohio State

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]5 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
[b][u]9 Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 4[/u][/b]
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1


Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?

Pretty sure they do 1-4 and 2-3 rather than fixed regional locations.

jkahn

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Jim HylaBracketology: Last one before March 24 NCAA selection show has Bowling Green in, Western Michigan out


[b]This week's brackets[/b]

[b]West Regional (Fargo):[/b]
16 American International vs. 1 St. Cloud State
[u][b]12 Harvard[/b][/u] vs. 6 Denver

[b]Midwest Regional (Allentown):[/b]
15 Notre Dame vs. 3 Minnesota State
[b][u]11 Cornell[/u][/b] vs. 7 Ohio State

[b]East Regional (Providence):[/b]
14 Providence vs. 4 Minnesota Duluth
10 Arizona State vs. [b][u]5 Quinnipiac[/u][/b]

[b]Northeast Regional (Manchester):[/b]
13 Bowling Green vs. 2 Massachusetts
[b][u]9 Clarkson[/u][/b] vs. 8 Northeastern
Conference breakdowns

[b][u]ECAC Hockey — 4[/u][/b]
Hockey East — 3
NCHC — 3
Big Ten – 2
WCHA — 2
Atlantic Hockey – 1
Independent – 1


Time to feel sorry for Harvard, but isn't there some way we can get Q away from ASU?

I would be totally fine with this bracket.

From what I can tell, the Frozen Four bracket projects semifinal matchups of east vs. northeast and west vs. midwest. Does anybody know or recall whether they've messed with that in the past in order to preserve the likelihood of 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs. 3 semifinals should the top seeds prevail in the regionals, or whether it's a strictly set-in-advance thing?

Pretty sure they do 1-4 and 2-3 rather than fixed regional locations.
Yes, it's bracketed based upon the regions where the overall top 4 seeds are, and has been since 2004.  Basketball now does the same thing.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

KenP

BU and Northeastern are in overtime. A win by the Terriers would help us out.

RichH

Quote from: KenPBU and Northeastern are in overtime. A win by the Terriers would help us out.

I'm rooting for the scenarios where Union gets an at-large bid, considering some of their players have already signed pro contracts. Luckily, this requires us winning tomorrow. Northeastern has to win to get there as well.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/yatc.php?preset=1&yatc%5B1%5D%5Bs1%5D=50&yatc%5B1%5D%5Bs2%5D=39&yatc%5B1%5D%5Bf%5D=50&yatc%5B4%5D%5Bs1%5D=18&yatc%5B4%5D%5Bs2%5D=22&yatc%5B4%5D%5Bf%5D=18&yatc%5B5%5D%5Bs1%5D=27&yatc%5B5%5D%5Bs2%5D=41&yatc%5B5%5D%5Bf%5D=41&yatc%5B6%5D%5Bf%5D=11&yatc%5B9%5D%5Bs1%5D=52&yatc%5B9%5D%5Bs2%5D=20&yatc%5B9%5D%5Bc%5D=16&yatc%5B9%5D%5Bf%5D=52&yatc%5B10%5D%5Bf%5D=60

ugarte

Northeastern wins and st. cloud is burying CC.

BearLover

Quote from: ugarteNortheastern wins and st. cloud is burying CC.
With Northeastern's win I believe Cornell will make its third NCAA in a row, a first under Schafer. Funny to think back now on all the griping (mine included) when the team missed out on the NCAAs for four years straight preceding this current run.