Incoming Recruits

[scoop85]

Yes, Michael O'Leary who's at Notre Dame

[ursusminor]

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.

Thanks, Ralph!  It is of great interest.

Truly great would be seeing the ratings from our past classes, to give us context.  You know, in your copious free time.  :-)

Well, I am retired as you know, and it is a good break from writing a speech in German on the reaction in Germany to the Chernobyl disaster.

OK, the women,
2019
Breza 4.25
Daniel 4.25
Isaac 4.25
Kenyon 3.50
Zingas 4.00
Zweber 3.00

2020
Boucher 4.00
Chokelel 3.50
Delianedis 4.25
Messier 4.00
Rud 4.00
Ruggiero 3.75
Yu 3.75

2021
Dulac 3.25
Guilday 3.75
Huo 3.50
MacSween 3.75
Mende 4.00

2022
Adam 3.75
Chan 4.00
Geer 3.50
Regalado 3.25

If there is someone missing on either this or the men's list, they may have been evaluated and just not been linked to Cornell. If you give me their first and last name, I will check. OTOH, from my own experience, they sometimes find out about recruits committing before other sources. I can, of course, supply the given name if you want to Google anyone.

[ursusminor]

Past classes.

They only go back to 2016. I am sure that this doesn't agree with your freshmen through junior classes.

2018
Andreyev 4.00
Brakel 3.75
Bramwell 3.50
Leahy 4.00
McDonald 3.50
Motley 3.75
Regush 4.00
Song 3.25

2017
Barron 3.75
Betts 3.75
Cairns 3.75
Donaldson 3.75
Galajda 3.75
Green 4.00
Haiskanen 3.75
Locke 3.75
McGrath 3.25
Mullin 4.00

2016
Bauld 3.50
Hoffman 4.00
Kaldis 4.50
Malott 4.00
Murphy 3.50

[scoop85]

Past classes.

They only go back to 2016. I am sure that this doesn't agree with your freshmen through junior classes.

2018
Andreyev 4.00
Brakel 3.75
Bramwell 3.50
Leahy 4.00
McDonald 3.50
Motley 3.75
Regush 4.00
Song 3.25

2017
Barron 3.75
Betts 3.75
Cairns 3.75
Donaldson 3.75
Galajda 3.75
Green 4.00
Haiskanen 3.75
Locke 3.75
McGrath 3.25
Mullin 4.00

2016
Bauld 3.50
Hoffman 4.00
Kaldis 4.50
Malott 4.00
Murphy 3.50

The ratings seem a bit off the mark for Barron, Donaldson and Galajda. Interesting that Kaldis had a significantly higher rating than anyone else during the cycle.

[BearLover]

Since I posted this information for the 2018 recruits over the summer, here are the ratings for Cornell's 2019 and 2020 recruits from Neutral Zone. They reevaluate a few every once in a while.

2019
Berard 3.75
Dirven 4.00
Kabachka 3.50
Lagarstrom 3.75
Malinski 3.75
Malone 4.00
Mitchell 3.75
Muzyka 3.75
Nelson 3.50
O'Leary 4.00
Stienburg 3.75
B Tupker 3.50
Z Tupker 3.50

2020
Kempf 3.75
Penney 3.75
Rayhill 3.75
Suda 4.00

What the numbers mean https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/educational-blog-post/neutral-zone-star-ratings-player-rankings/  (I think that is a public document.)
I have been assuming that the ratings, but not the evaluations, are public since they usually include it on their tweets, Also I have not gotten any complaints when I post this for RPI's recruits. From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits.

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.

Thank you for posting. Who are "Kabachka" and "Nelson"? Looks like some of the other names are spelled wrong. Makes me wonder about these ratings...

[ursusminor]

Since I posted this information for the 2018 recruits over the summer, here are the ratings for Cornell's 2019 and 2020 recruits from Neutral Zone. They reevaluate a few every once in a while.

2019
Berard 3.75
Dirven 4.00
Kabachka 3.50
Lagarstrom 3.75
Malinski 3.75
Malone 4.00
Mitchell 3.75
Muzyka 3.75
Nelson 3.50
O'Leary 4.00
Stienburg 3.75
B Tupker 3.50
Z Tupker 3.50

2020
Kempf 3.75
Penney 3.75
Rayhill 3.75
Suda 4.00

What the numbers mean https://www.neutralzone.net/mens/educational-blog-post/neutral-zone-star-ratings-player-rankings/  (I think that is a public document.)
I have been assuming that the ratings, but not the evaluations, are public since they usually include it on their tweets, Also I have not gotten any complaints when I post this for RPI's recruits. From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits.

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.

Thank you for posting. Who are "Kabachka" and "Nelson"? Looks like some of the other names are spelled wrong. Makes me wonder about these ratings...

Should be Joey Kubachka, my misspelling. He plays now for an ACHA school. Nelson is Joshua Nelson who plays for the London Knights. I assume that they were once Cornell recruits, but I certainly don't know. As I wrote "From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits." They make a lot of errors. I noticed that they conflated reports for 5'6" Clarkson forward recruit Alexis Giguere with a 6'2" defenseman of the same name. I wrote a couple of times about similar errors for RPI recruits, but I don't follow other schools close enough for anything else.

The ratings are not perfect as was pointed out in the previous post. I find them and the evaluations, which I won't post, interesting, but certainly not the end-all. They gave a 3.75 to the RPI women's 3rd string goalie who has not played at all in two years. I don't expect to see her next season either when she will be the only returnee.

[pfibiger]

I don't remember him but elite prospects reports the Nelson ex-commitment as well:


https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/274015/josh-nelson

[Trotsky]

The ratings are not perfect as was pointed out in the previous post. I find them and the evaluations, which I won't post, interesting, but certainly not the end-all.

We understand the spirit in which they are intended, and I greatly appreciate you copying them out for us.  I found them fascinating.

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

[ursusminor]

The only other name which I think that I copied incorrectly is Lagerstrom. The spelling of Stienburg agrees with USHL page, as opposed to the first post on this page.

The ratings appear to be correct on each of the three lists which I posted.

I didn't post the list of current women's players. They only go back to 2017.

2018
Burke 4.25
Frechette 4.00
McKenzie 4.00
Pietrowski 4.00
Song 4.00

2017
Browning 3.75
Facchinato 4.00
Frechette 4.00
Mills 4.00
Nealey 4.00
Phelps 4.00
Slobodzian 4.00

BTW, they don't yet have Ella Huntley who committed a few days ago as a Cornell recruit. Believe it or not, she is only rated at 3.00. I assume that will improve before she shows up in Ithaca. I can't believe that any school would recruit a player who isn't considerably above average that far in advance. Interestingly, the RPI men received a verbal this week for a player born in 2003 who was rated at 3.00. It is now at 3.25.

The list of NZ's scouts are here for the men and here for the women.

[ursusminor]

In addition to Huntley, the following Cornell women's recruits are mentioned here but not linked to Cornell by NZ:

Van Gelder 3.75
Thibodeau, in data base, but not rated

[Swampy]

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

[ursusminor]

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.

[jkahn]

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.

There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

[scoop85]

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.

There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

I wonder if he's in hockey shape? :-P

[Swampy]

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared.  His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason.  I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.

There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

I wonder if he's in hockey shape? :-P

I think at this point the issue is if he's in shape that makes him as effective as some of the players who either are playing injured or otherwise are the least effective on the team.