Cornell football 2018

[billhoward]

Close game of two 7-0 teams, 9-7 Dartmouth of the way, then a late Princeton score to stay perfect on the season. Princeton has yet to play Yale (away) and Penn (home).

Dartmouth is likely to win out, against Cornell and Brown.

Note that Princeton coach Bob Surace (P '90) arrived the same year Kent Austin did at Cornell (2010) and went 1-9, 1-9 and 5-5 in the Austin years. By the time Archer arrived, Surace put up an 8-2 year in 2013, also in 2016, suffered 5-5 records 2014, 2015 and 2017, and will at worst be 9-1 this year. Took him four years to be a contender.

Image below: the Dartmouth athletics landing page after the game -- Dartmouth soccer (over Cornell) leads, football buried. The only thing Princeton hid on its page was how the score got from 7-7 to 9-7 Dartmouth in the second quarter: "Both teams traded touchdown drives to open the game, but both defenses settled right afterwards and started throwing haymakers the rest of the afternoon. Dartmouth had a second-quarter sack to open a 9-7 lead that stuck on the scoreboard far longer than most likely expected, but the Tiger defense never allowed that advantage to grow."

[ugarte]

Didn't Archer get another contract extension after last season?

David Archer '05 has been Cornell coach since fall 2013. So this is his sixth year. According to the Cornell Daily Sun, Archer has signed two contract extensions. If I read the Sun story right, it reported in February 2018 that the second extension was signed "some time ago" as in after the 2017 season ended, perhaps. One was signed before the 2016 season (after three years). They could have a two-year (2016, 2017) and then a two- or one-year extension (2018 or 2018 & 2019).

If Cornell beats Columbia in the season finale, he is 4-6 and it's a tie for his best season ever, if you're a "glass is half full" person.

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Archer may be a singular talent, a Cornell alum, coming in as the then-youngest D1 head coach, but 15-45 (.250) after six years is probably enough time to judge him.

A potential "tie" for the best record he's achieved at 4-6 in 6 years, says all you need to know.  Time for Cornell to fire Archer.

you know they'll notice it's just you typing this a dozen times right

[rss77]

Look-The team is giving their best effort out there but if you look at the history of Cornell football since the formalization of the Ivy League the program has been at best mediocre with the exception of the Marinaro and Maxie Baughan years. Was kind of sad being at the game yesterday and watching the 1988 team being honored for their Ivy co-championship. 1990 was the last co-championship-30 years!  I have wondered whether given the structure of the Ivy League whether Cornell can excel in football.

[Ken711]

Look-The team is giving their best effort out there but if you look at the history of Cornell football since the formalization of the Ivy League the program has been at best mediocre with the exception of the Marinaro and Maxie Baughan years. Was kind of sad being at the game yesterday and watching the 1988 team being honored for their Ivy co-championship. 1990 was the last co-championship-30 years!  I have wondered whether given the structure of the Ivy League whether Cornell can excel in football.

Jim Hofher's years as head coach as you point out were excellent.  Also, in 1999 and 2000 Pete Mangurian had back to back 5-2 Ivy League Conference finishes.  It is possible with the right coach and coaching staff and of course institutional support.

[Iceberg]

Just to play devil's advocate, do we really need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on football to help the Cornell brand? We had a record number of applicants for this year's freshman class, and with the exception of the recruited football players, it's unlikely that most of them applied to Cornell because of our football program. I meet with approximately 15 Cornell applicants every year as part of my volunteer work for the Cornell Alumni Admissions Ambassador Network, and most of the kids I meet with have no idea of anything regarding Cornell athletics, with the exception of the rare few who are being recruited for a particular sport.

I think this is the case for the majority of people you're going to have applying to a school like Cornell, even if you take out the international applicants. I can tell you that it certainly wasn't a consideration when I applied. In fact, until I went to my first hockey game (February of my freshman year at the invitation of some people in my dorm), I had never been to a sporting event on campus. However, I had already been watching NHL hockey for about 4 years up to that point so it was very natural for me to keep going to games.

[jkahn]

Perhaps a little help for next year:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/sports/ct-sta-spt-football-oak-park-river-foresf-brother-rice-st-1105-story.html

[Al DeFlorio]

Promising start interrupted by the weekly snap over the quarterback's head.  Followed up by calling an eight-yard pass play on 3rd and 16.

Note how on 3rd and 10 Dartmouth threw to a receiver 15 yards downfield.

[ugarte]

Good second quarter to come back from down 21-0 to close to 21-17 but the third quarter was terrible. Mostly on the players, who are blowing the blocking on screens very badly. Also a fumble inside our own 10 when the center snapped the ball directly into a running PicKell, who was in motion crossing in front of Banks and not looking for the ball.

[billhoward]

35-17 Dartmouth 5 minutes into the 4th. Considering how Princeton ravaged us and never said thank you, this is decent.

[ugarte]

35-17 Dartmouth 5 minutes into the 4th. Considering how Princeton ravaged us and never said thank you, this is decent.

Late TD on a very good drive from Banks - some option runs, a couple of long passes (including a 30-yard one-handed sideline grab from Pedersen) and then a short slip-screen to Pedersen for the TD.

Final 35-24.

I'll go watch them next week at Columbia unless the weather is trash.

[Cop at Lynah]

From the Cornell Sun article:

As the interview drew to a close, The Sun brought up how the Ivy League is the only Football Championship Subdivision Division I conference in which there is no postseason play and whose champion must decline its automatic bid into the NCAA playoffs. The feeling among Ivy league head coaches like Cornell's David Archer '05 is that the annual push from the coaches to permit the champion to accept the bid is "dead on arrival" when it reaches the presidents' desks.

Pollack said that she has never been presented with the proposition, but she was worried that it would mean Cornell would have to play against No.1 ranked Alabama. (A hypothetical change would have the Ivy champion competing with the FCS' best, the likes of North Dakota State. Alabama, who competes in the Southeastern Conference, is the current No. 1 ranked team in the Football Bowl Subdivision.)

"I watch our Cornell team, and I think they're great fun to watch, but then I think of Alabama and I'm worried what playing them will mean for our players' mental health," she quipped.

[scoop85]

From the Cornell Sun article:

As the interview drew to a close, The Sun brought up how the Ivy League is the only Football Championship Subdivision Division I conference in which there is no postseason play and whose champion must decline its automatic bid into the NCAA playoffs. The feeling among Ivy league head coaches like Cornell's David Archer '05 is that the annual push from the coaches to permit the champion to accept the bid is "dead on arrival" when it reaches the presidents' desks.

Pollack said that she has never been presented with the proposition, but she was worried that it would mean Cornell would have to play against No.1 ranked Alabama. (A hypothetical change would have the Ivy champion competing with the FCS' best, the likes of North Dakota State. Alabama, who competes in the Southeastern Conference, is the current No. 1 ranked team in the Football Bowl Subdivision.)

"I watch our Cornell team, and I think they're great fun to watch, but then I think of Alabama and I'm worried what playing them will mean for our players' mental health," she quipped.

If that quote doesn't tell you how little the administration knows and cares about Cornell football, nothing will.

[Al DeFlorio]

Cornell is #1 in strength of schedule among FCS schools.

[Ken711]

From the Cornell Sun article:

As the interview drew to a close, The Sun brought up how the Ivy League is the only Football Championship Subdivision Division I conference in which there is no postseason play and whose champion must decline its automatic bid into the NCAA playoffs. The feeling among Ivy league head coaches like Cornell's David Archer '05 is that the annual push from the coaches to permit the champion to accept the bid is "dead on arrival" when it reaches the presidents' desks.

Pollack said that she has never been presented with the proposition, but she was worried that it would mean Cornell would have to play against No.1 ranked Alabama. (A hypothetical change would have the Ivy champion competing with the FCS' best, the likes of North Dakota State. Alabama, who competes in the Southeastern Conference, is the current No. 1 ranked team in the Football Bowl Subdivision.)

"I watch our Cornell team, and I think they're great fun to watch, but then I think of Alabama and I'm worried what playing them will mean for our players' mental health," she quipped.

If that quote doesn't tell you how little the administration knows and cares about Cornell football, nothing will.

"Mental health of playing Alabama?"  ::screwy::  

How about Cornell first hires a new football coach that can actually win more than 1/3rd of its games (head coach David Archer overall record .254 in 6 years). Then we can worry about post-season play, lol.  Cornell last had a winning record in 2005, and an Ivy Championship in 1990!

[Swampy]

From the Cornell Sun article:

As the interview drew to a close, The Sun brought up how the Ivy League is the only Football Championship Subdivision Division I conference in which there is no postseason play and whose champion must decline its automatic bid into the NCAA playoffs. The feeling among Ivy league head coaches like Cornell's David Archer '05 is that the annual push from the coaches to permit the champion to accept the bid is "dead on arrival" when it reaches the presidents' desks.

Pollack said that she has never been presented with the proposition, but she was worried that it would mean Cornell would have to play against No.1 ranked Alabama. (A hypothetical change would have the Ivy champion competing with the FCS' best, the likes of North Dakota State. Alabama, who competes in the Southeastern Conference, is the current No. 1 ranked team in the Football Bowl Subdivision.)

"I watch our Cornell team, and I think they're great fun to watch, but then I think of Alabama and I'm worried what playing them will mean for our players' mental health," she quipped.

If that quote doesn't tell you how little the administration knows and cares about Cornell football, nothing will.

"Mental health of playing Alabama?"  ::screwy::  

How about Cornell first hires a new football coach that can actually win more than 1/3rd of its games (head coach David Archer overall record .254 in 6 years). Then we can worry about post-season play, lol.  Cornell last had a winning record in 2005, and a share of an Ivy Championship in 1990!

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