Cornell-BU

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Next year was the year before this year became the year..  but its hockey where 1 goal +/-is the norm for good and bad teams.

[BigRedHockeyFan]

Postgame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73WsXKq4hc

[BigRedHockeyFan]

Game Highlights

https://www.ncaa.com/video/icehockey-men/2018-03-24/mhk-105-mens-ice-hockey-boston-u-cornell-semi-finals

Full game replay on ESPN

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3304629

[BigRedHockeyFan]

BU played a chippy first period.  There were a lot of deliberate after the whistle bumps into Cornell players.  Also, check out the scrum with 3:50 left in the first period.  Tkachuk and Greenway were both hitting Vanderlaan in the head with the end of their sticks as the fought for the puck.  Vanderlaan complained after the whistle was blown but no penalty was called.  At least one of those guys should have gotten 2 minutes for contact to the head.

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I couldn't stomach watching the whole game on replay.  Cornell should have won.  I believe they were the better team, definitely the more skilled team.  BU likes to play rough to compensate for their lack of skill.  

The second BU goal was just a bad defensive breakdown.

Galajda played a great game.  

Best of luck to the graduating seniors.

[BearLover]

Outshot the "most talented" team? Moral victories in the post season are meaningless. I agree with the poster about a go to guy. This team did not have that.

I didn't say anything about a moral victory. I said we did what he had to do to win and things just didn't work out that way.

Cornell probably isn't ever going to recruit the blue-chip blue forwards. Not in a defense-first team without scholarships.

On the topic of scoring, for those who say we aren't losing much to graduation, I would consider that three players on this year's team scored more than 7 goals: Yates (13), Angello (13), and Rauter (11). Yates and Rauter are now gone and we had better pray Angello doesn't leave.

Schafer has never made the NCAA tournament three years in a row. Remember the great freshman class in 2011-12? It had four draft picks on it and the team's leading scorer (as a freshman). Made the NCAAs that year...never made it again. Nothing is guaranteed. That's why, even when the future looks bright or you're playing with house money, your tournament run is no less important than any other year's, and few losses are going to be more disappointing than yesterday's.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Two very evenly matched teams playing a really tight, hard-hitting game.  Other than a win, I think you couldn't ask for more.

One thing that surprised me was how much bigger BU looked than us.  I'm not used to seeing us be the smaller team.  But we were clearly the faster team.

And we're young.  We'll be back next year.  

On to lax season!

[Scersk '97]

Yates and Rauter are now gone and we had better pray Angello doesn't leave.

This vein of speculation is getting unduly thick. Keeping it civil but being as blunt as possible, Angello leaving would be "misguided" on a level beyond even Shane Hynes. It would be "shocking" beyond belief.

Nevermind that he has only one more year left in his degree. We have a chance to finish a good amount of unfinished business next year, and I can only imagine that his central role in such a campaign will raise the value of his stock significantly.

[Jim Hyla]

Yates and Rauter are now gone and we had better pray Angello doesn't leave.

This vein of speculation is getting unduly thick. Keeping it civil but being as blunt as possible, Angello leaving would be "misguided" on a level beyond even Shane Hynes. It would be "shocking" beyond belief.

Nevermind that he has only one more year left in his degree. We have a chance to finish a good amount of unfinished business next year, and I can only imagine that his central role in such a campaign will raise the value of his stock significantly.

I agree with what  you said. As I understand it, Pittsburgh has to make a decision this year, either sign him or give him up to free agency. If that's true, I suspect he'll be back.

I don't think he's had such a great year/career that he'd be offered a wonderful contract. Therefore coming back to finish his degree and improve would make the most sense.

Maybe I've got it wrong, anybody know?

[BearLover]

Yates and Rauter are now gone and we had better pray Angello doesn't leave.

This vein of speculation is getting unduly thick. Keeping it civil but being as blunt as possible, Angello leaving would be "misguided" on a level beyond even Shane Hynes. It would be "shocking" beyond belief.

Nevermind that he has only one more year left in his degree. We have a chance to finish a good amount of unfinished business next year, and I can only imagine that his central role in such a campaign will raise the value of his stock significantly.

I agree with you that he is a long-shot to make the NHL and would want to return to a strong team and all his friends and the ability to earn a degree, but Pittsburgh is going to offer him a lot of money and none of us can speak to what his and his family's financial situation is. It definitely wouldn't be shocking beyond belief.

[Scersk '97]

It definitely wouldn't be shocking beyond belief.

I didn't mean "shocking"—I meant something else. More in the vein of "foolish."

Having done a quick search on the speculation, I understand the chatter. But if he has a truly dominant season next year, the rewards, a la Vesey, could be enormous.

PS Whether or not Angello leaves, I actually think our offensive prospects for next season rest squarely on the shoulders of Starrett, my current "most likely to piss me off." If he develops into what he's supposed to be, we'll make a very deep run.

[Anne 85]

Schafer has never made the NCAA tournament three years in a row. Remember the great freshman class in 2011-12? It had four draft picks on it and the team's leading scorer (as a freshman). Made the NCAAs that year...never made it again. Nothing is guaranteed. That's why, even when the future looks bright or you're playing with house money, your tournament run is no less important than any other year's, and few losses are going to be more disappointing than yesterday's.

Greg again.

1. The last time we made the NC$$s 3 years in a row, the coach was Ned Harkness.  This is hardly some Schafer issue.

2. You are of course absolutely correct that nothing is guaranteed and every chance is precious.  Every chance is also a crapshoot.  c.f. St. Cloud.  The best way to win the NC$$ is just to get back there regularly.  You gotta be in it to win it.

3. From RUMINT, the freshmen of 2012 (Class of 2015) is the subtext of Mike's postgame comments about bonding well but too exclusively.  He was making a comparison with this large talented class and saying they hadn't done that.  If he raised it in that context I assume he's been lecturing them about it all year and they will be hyper vigilent about mixing in the successor classes.

[BigRedHockeyFan]

I think Angelo wants to complete his education.  Check his Cornell bio and his Linkedin profile.

[Anne 85]

Recent NC$$ champions and their number of appearances in the tournament in the 7-year interval (t-3 .. t+3).

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# Title Team[hr]5 2015 Providence
5 2014 Union
5 2013 Yale
6 2012 BC
3 2011 UMD
6 2010 BC
4 2009 BU
6 2008 BC
4 2007 Michigan State
4 2006 Wisconsin


4.8 average

The last time Cornell had 5 appearances in a 7-year period was (1968 .. 1974).

[Scersk '97]

Recent NC$$ champions and their number of appearances in the tournament in the 7-year interval (t-3 .. t+3).

Code Select Expand

# Title Team[hr]5 2015 Providence
5 2014 Union
5 2013 Yale
6 2012 BC
3 2011 UMD
6 2010 BC
4 2009 BU
6 2008 BC
4 2007 Michigan State
4 2006 Wisconsin


4.8 average

The last time Cornell had 5 appearances in a 7-year period was (1968 .. 1974).

This kind of analysis throws Harvard and Clarkson's poor performances in the NCAAs into stark relief.

Clarkson "should have" won a championship in the 90s; Harvard should have won a championship in the early aughts.

[Scersk '97]

The second BU goal was just a bad defensive breakdown.

I'm still trying to figure out what happened on that breakout.

Betts gets the puck behind the goal and just stands there, even after Smith breaks out wide. (I'm screaming in my head, "Pass and get out of there. Let the D handle it!") Meanwhile, McCrea is standing very awkwardly in front of Galajda. Sure, Tkachuk is standing nearly in the crease daring Betts to go right, but why not let him try to chase Betts? Shouldn't McCrea just get out of there and set up opposite Smith?

And then Angello comes out of nowhere to take the puck. Shouldn't that have been just about anyone else? I don't remember Angello taking it up ice very often. Where is our fifth player? Angello promptly coughs up the puck. He and Betts never really properly pick up men to cover. Blammo.

A stunning series of miscues from a team that, all season long, has looked far more fluid than usual getting out of their own zone.