Cornell at Union, 2/24/18

YZ · February 24, 2018, 10:47:19 PM

Personally, I don't get those comments against Stew. I agree that he probably didn't play his best tonight, but Union's put some real effort into this game. And remember, last time they were @ Lynah they put in 3 goals. I think tonight's game will only help with the rest of our games, and Galajda, too.

marty · February 24, 2018, 11:23:51 PM

Quote from: Cop at LynahThey have two weeks coming up - How much rest does he need ?

Nice to not give Union a shot at him tonight. The less they see of him the better if we meet again.

French Rage · February 25, 2018, 12:01:12 AM

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Cop at LynahThey have two weeks coming up - How much rest does he need ?

Nice to not give Union a shot at him tonight. The less they see of him the better if we meet again.

Interesting point.

abmarks · February 25, 2018, 12:23:14 AM

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: abmarksHuh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

OK, you're right on that point. Thanks for refreshing me, albeit in a combative manner; I wasn't putting much thought into it.

I'm still glad Stewart has some recent game experience heading to the post-season. You never know when we'll need him.

Sorry, i'm cranky lately whenever i see incorrect facts (goddamn trump's fault).

BigRedHockeyFan · February 25, 2018, 01:06:22 AM

Schafer knows who's hurting and should sit. He knows best who needs ice time and who doesn't. I trust his judgement more than anyone else's.

Tcl123 · February 25, 2018, 01:24:26 AM

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: abmarksHuh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

OK, you're right on that point. Thanks for refreshing me, albeit in a combative manner; I wasn't putting much thought into it.

I'm still glad Stewart has some recent game experience heading to the post-season. You never know when we'll need him.

Sorry, i'm cranky lately whenever i see incorrect facts

FYP

Jim Hyla · February 25, 2018, 11:30:22 AM

So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

Dear President Ainlay,

This past weekend I attended the Cornell University at Union College hockey game.

Although the hockey game was very exciting, and unfortunately my team lost, I was very upset by the way that our pep band was treated. Our pep band regularly travels to away men's hockey games. Unfortunately I feel that the pep band was mistreated in a way that I have never seen from any other school.

The following discussion was obtained by talking to various members of the band and the band director. Because I was not privy to the exact conversation, it is possible that there are some inaccuracies, although I think the general tenor of the conversation is correct.

Upon setting up and getting ready to play before the game, the band director was approached by someone from the rink staff and given specific guidelines about when they could play. They were told that they could not play as the team was coming onto the ice before each period. Also they could not play our alma mater, which is traditionally done during the second intermission. Initially they were told that the only time they could play was after we scored a goal. Our band director said he eventually negotiated that they could play 3 times during each period.

I know there were other discussions that I'm not aware of, but I think the restrictions that were put on our band were excessive and unlike any that I have seen at other rinks. Maybe there was a good reason for these, although I certainly can't imagine what it would be.

I hope you would agree that college bands add a lot to the enjoyment of these amateur events. Having watched Cornell hockey games for over 50 years, including having been to every ECAC rink, as well as many from other conferences, I have never experienced anything even remotely similar to what happened this past Saturday night. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, this has never happened at Union College before.

Maybe it is within Union's right to impose these restrictions, but it certainly takes away from the enjoyment and atmosphere of a college hockey game. Because I do not know what rules the ECAC has for these matters, I'm sending a copy of this to Mr. Stephen Hagwell, as well as our band director and our athletic director.

I'm sure that you have more important matters to attend to, but I felt that sending this email to you would be the most efficient way of getting it to whoever is responsible.

Also, because I'm sure that you get a great many emails, I'm also sending you a mailed copy of this letter.

I appreciate your reading this and I would be happy to discuss this with you. In that regard I have included my cell phone number.

Yours truly,

James Hyla

Cornell University '67

Chris '03 · February 25, 2018, 11:33:12 AM

+100

Trotsky · February 25, 2018, 12:01:58 PM

Very good letter.

KGR11 · February 25, 2018, 12:07:30 PM

I remember Q being pretty bad as well. We started chanting "Let them [Q band] play!" whenever they played canned music.

Does Union have a band these days? Did they have any restrictions

andyw2100 · February 25, 2018, 12:11:53 PM

Quote from: Jim HylaSo a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

Dear President Ainlay,

Union College has a new President, effective July 1:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Union-College-to-reveal-new-president-12626526.php

Trotsky · February 25, 2018, 12:15:20 PM

Union is mostly annoying because it's ChildWorld. Everything is 'splosions and let's get ready to rummmmble and the general AHL atmosphere of a kindergarten.

osorojo · February 25, 2018, 02:41:19 PM

Cornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

French Rage · February 25, 2018, 02:46:37 PM

Umm, 1967?

Trotsky · February 25, 2018, 03:22:48 PM

Quote from: osorojoCornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1967/box19670318.pdf