Men's Basketball (2017-2018)

[ugarte]

You know it is little more than an exhibition when they don't pull out half the bleachers. Cornell beats Central Penn College (formerly Central Penn Business School) 93-69 in a game that closer for longer than it should have been.  16 turnovers; 16 offensive rebounds surrendered. At least some guys on the deep bench got to play.

Wharton undergrad b-school has a new name and its own teams? The old one had a lot of famous leaders.

Wouldn't Wharton be "Eastern Penn Business School?" I may start calling it that.

Barry kept calling the Knights D2, which is technically true but the implication is wrong.  Central Penn isn't NCAA D2, but a United States Collegiate Athletic Association Division 2 team.  To be fair, they are ranked 3rd in that division and actively schedule D1 games, as they have played 6 this season.  But the division is a collection of community colleges, small branch campuses of larger schools, tech and trade schools (including the Culinary Institute of America), and the like.  The Knights played hard throughout and I respect their coach for scheduling up; I just don't see the value in playing a team that many levels of competitiveness below D1.  Seriously, the guys looked awful and won by 24.

i think it's a chance to work on stuff in a live game situation and give the end of the bench some run

[mountainred]

You know it is little more than an exhibition when they don't pull out half the bleachers. Cornell beats Central Penn College (formerly Central Penn Business School) 93-69 in a game that closer for longer than it should have been.  16 turnovers; 16 offensive rebounds surrendered. At least some guys on the deep bench got to play.

Wharton undergrad b-school has a new name and its own teams? The old one had a lot of famous leaders.

Wouldn't Wharton be "Eastern Penn Business School?" I may start calling it that.

Barry kept calling the Knights D2, which is technically true but the implication is wrong.  Central Penn isn't NCAA D2, but a United States Collegiate Athletic Association Division 2 team.  To be fair, they are ranked 3rd in that division and actively schedule D1 games, as they have played 6 this season.  But the division is a collection of community colleges, small branch campuses of larger schools, tech and trade schools (including the Culinary Institute of America), and the like.  The Knights played hard throughout and I respect their coach for scheduling up; I just don't see the value in playing a team that many levels of competitiveness below D1.  Seriously, the guys looked awful and won by 24.

i think it's a chance to work on stuff in a live game situation and give the end of the bench some run

Sure, but there are 350+ D1 schools that will let you run live game situations.  And it's not like Kyle or Jordan got that much PT (6 mins) because the starters played 20+.

What really gets me is how this has gone from an annual game with Ithaca (fine), to a game with a local D3 (okay, I guess), to games with NAIA or USCAA teams in their second division.  It just feels bush league.

I've really wasted too much of my time (and the Board's) on this game.::demented::

One piece of news from the game, I think I heard Barry say Wil Bathurst is out for the season with a shoulder injury.  A tough break for a young man who plays hard.

[scoop85]

You know it is little more than an exhibition when they don't pull out half the bleachers. Cornell beats Central Penn College (formerly Central Penn Business School) 93-69 in a game that closer for longer than it should have been.  16 turnovers; 16 offensive rebounds surrendered. At least some guys on the deep bench got to play.

Wharton undergrad b-school has a new name and its own teams? The old one had a lot of famous leaders.

Wouldn't Wharton be "Eastern Penn Business School?" I may start calling it that.

Barry kept calling the Knights D2, which is technically true but the implication is wrong.  Central Penn isn't NCAA D2, but a United States Collegiate Athletic Association Division 2 team.  To be fair, they are ranked 3rd in that division and actively schedule D1 games, as they have played 6 this season.  But the division is a collection of community colleges, small branch campuses of larger schools, tech and trade schools (including the Culinary Institute of America), and the like.  The Knights played hard throughout and I respect their coach for scheduling up; I just don't see the value in playing a team that many levels of competitiveness below D1.  Seriously, the guys looked awful and won by 24.

i think it's a chance to work on stuff in a live game situation and give the end of the bench some run

Sure, but there are 350+ D1 schools that will let you run live game situations.  And it's not like Kyle or Jordan got that much PT (6 mins) because the starters played 20+.

What really gets me is how this has gone from an annual game with Ithaca (fine), to a game with a local D3 (okay, I guess), to games with NAIA or USCAA teams in their second division.  It just feels bush league.

I've really wasted too much of my time (and the Board's) on this game.::demented::

One piece of news from the game, I think I heard Barry say Wil Bathurst is out for the season with a shoulder injury.  A tough break for a young man who plays hard.

Too bad about Bathurst. He was an important piece this year, and a tough way to end his college career.  Any idea if Whiteside will get on the court this year? As time goes by that seems less likely.

Starting off with the P&P trip is not ideal.  I think we're good enough to win one of those games if we bring our best effort, but an 0-2 league start is more likely than not

[mountainred]

Too bad about Bathurst. He was an important piece this year, and a tough way to end his college career.  Any idea if Whiteside will get on the court this year? As time goes by that seems less likely.

Starting off with the P&P trip is not ideal.  I think we're good enough to win one of those games if we bring our best effort, but an 0-2 league start is more likely than not

Scoop, I haven't heard a peep about Troy all season.  At this point, you have to guess that he is likely saving a season of eligibility in case he wants to have another school fund year one of his MBA.

I'm not optimistic about this weekend, but the Duquesne win tells me a win is possible.

[scoop85]

Too bad about Bathurst. He was an important piece this year, and a tough way to end his college career.  Any idea if Whiteside will get on the court this year? As time goes by that seems less likely.

Starting off with the P&P trip is not ideal.  I think we're good enough to win one of those games if we bring our best effort, but an 0-2 league start is more likely than not

Scoop, I haven't heard a peep about Troy all season.  At this point, you have to guess that he is likely saving a season of eligibility in case he wants to have another school fund year one of his MBA.

I'm not optimistic about this weekend, but the Duquesne win tells me a win is possible.

The Toledo win too shows that we are capable.

[mountainred]

Too bad about Bathurst. He was an important piece this year, and a tough way to end his college career.  Any idea if Whiteside will get on the court this year? As time goes by that seems less likely.

Starting off with the P&P trip is not ideal.  I think we're good enough to win one of those games if we bring our best effort, but an 0-2 league start is more likely than not

Scoop, I haven't heard a peep about Troy all season.  At this point, you have to guess that he is likely saving a season of eligibility in case he wants to have another school fund year one of his MBA.

I'm not optimistic about this weekend, but the Duquesne win tells me a win is possible.

The Toledo win too shows that we are capable.

I was thinking of road wins, but good point.  Toledo beat Penn at the Palestra this year 85-72.

[nagowski]

Anybody know what section is the Cornell section at the Princeton gym this weekend?

[mountainred]

Penn 69 Cornell 61.  At 13-13, the Quakers went on a 16-1 run and the Big Red never tied it back up.  Penn built a double digit lead late, but the guys fought back and kept it interesting.  I think they got it to 4 before Penn hit some free throws.

Basically, the guys couldn't shoot.  Other than Stone, the team shot 15 for 43.  Matt was off all night and was sitting on 5 points throughout most of the game.  Some of that was Penn, some was just that Matt's shots weren't falling.  Stone had 20 points and 17 rebounds (but a few later turnovers that won't sit well with him).

More disappointing than discouraging.  If Matt doesn't have a rare off game, Cornell might have won.  But I'm sure Coach Donahue is thinking his guys should have won more easily (they were a brutal 11-23 at the line).

[ugarte]

Penn 69 Cornell 61.  At 13-13, the Quakers went on a 16-1 run and the Big Red never tied it back up.  Penn built a double digit lead late, but the guys fought back and kept it interesting.  I think they got it to 4 before Penn hit some free throws.

Basically, the guys couldn't shoot.  Other than Stone, the team shot 15 for 43.  Matt was off all night and was sitting on 5 points throughout most of the game.  Some of that was Penn, some was just that Matt's shots weren't falling.  Stone had 20 points and 17 rebounds (but a few later turnovers that won't sit well with him).

More disappointing than discouraging.  If Matt doesn't have a rare off game, Cornell might have won.  But I'm sure Coach Donahue is thinking his guys should have won more easily (they were a brutal 11-23 at the line).

Penn also went like 6 for 20 from the line. It was kind of hard to watch both of these teams.

[mountainred]

It was kind of hard to watch both of these teams.

Yeah, the tape of this game isn't going into a time capsule to show future generations what basketball was like.  It's now 10 losses in a row to Penn.

Tonight's game may be an even bigger challenge since you have two teams using basically the same scheme and one of them (not us) does it better.

[mountainred]

Cornell trails Princeton 53-19 at the half.  The Tigers led 19-0 at one point.  Someone else can watch the second half, I don't have the stomach for it.

[ugarte]

Cornell trails Princeton 53-19 at the half.  The Tigers led 19-0 at one point.  Someone else can watch the second half, I don't have the stomach for it.

lol jfc

[Chris '03]

Cornell trails Princeton 53-19 at the half.  The Tigers led 19-0 at one point.  Someone else can watch the second half, I don't have the stomach for it.

Let's just leave it at "Cornell finished the game with 54."

[scoop85]

Cornell trails Princeton 53-19 at the half.  The Tigers led 19-0 at one point.  Someone else can watch the second half, I don't have the stomach for it.

Let's just leave it at "Cornell finished the game with 54."

Princeton's decent, but no excuse for that type of shellacking.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Cornell trails Princeton 53-19 at the half.  The Tigers led 19-0 at one point.  Someone else can watch the second half, I don't have the stomach for it.

Let's just leave it at "Cornell finished the game with 54."

We can take "pride" in the fact that we held them under 100.