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dbilmes

Quote from: IcebergAlso, I imagine that first game will probably have the most attendance since Lowell also draws very well as I've seen first-hand.
Lowell is only about 30 miles from Manchester, so while Saturday is unlikely to sell out, there's sure to be a large contingent of Lowell fans there.

CU2007

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82It's Manchester.  Against Lowell.
What is the rest of the regional? (knock wood)

Minny vs. Ohio State

Minny - ND

abmarks

Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82It's Manchester.  Against Lowell.
What is the rest of the regional? (knock wood)

Minny vs. Ohio State

Minny - ND

No, it's minny (minnesota) v Notre Dame.  No idea what the shorthand for UM-Duluth is but it's not minny.  And UM-Duluth v Ohio State is in FARGO.



Cincinnati
1. Denver vs. 16. Michigan Tech
8. Union vs. 9. Penn State

Fargo
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Ohio State
7. Boston University vs. 10. North Dakota

Providence
3. Harvard vs. 14. Providence
6. Western Michigan vs. 12. Air Force

Manchester
4. Minnesota vs. 13. Notre Dame
5. Mass.-Lowell vs. 11. Cornell

CU2007

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82It's Manchester.  Against Lowell.
What is the rest of the regional? (knock wood)

Minny vs. Ohio State

Minny - ND

No, it's minny (minnesota) v Notre Dame.  No idea what the shorthand for UM-Duluth is but it's not minny.  And UM-Duluth v Ohio State is in FARGO.



Cincinnati
1. Denver vs. 16. Michigan Tech
8. Union vs. 9. Penn State

Fargo
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Ohio State
7. Boston University vs. 10. North Dakota

Providence
3. Harvard vs. 14. Providence
6. Western Michigan vs. 12. Air Force

Manchester
4. Minnesota vs. 13. Notre Dame
5. Mass.-Lowell vs. 11. Cornell

Right. So the rest of the regional is minny - ND. Not Minny - Ohio State.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82It's Manchester.  Against Lowell.
What is the rest of the regional? (knock wood)

Minny vs. Ohio State

Minny - ND

No, it's minny (minnesota) v Notre Dame.  No idea what the shorthand for UM-Duluth is but it's not minny.  And UM-Duluth v Ohio State is in FARGO.



Cincinnati
1. Denver vs. 16. Michigan Tech
8. Union vs. 9. Penn State

Fargo
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Ohio State
7. Boston University vs. 10. North Dakota

Providence
3. Harvard vs. 14. Providence
6. Western Michigan vs. 12. Air Force

Manchester
4. Minnesota vs. 13. Notre Dame
5. Mass.-Lowell vs. 11. Cornell

Run this by me again.

Jeff says it's Manchester against Lowell and ugarte asks what are the other teams?

Then you, mistakenly I think, say Minny-OSU.

CU2007 corrects you to Minny-ND (meaning Notre Dame, not N. Dakota)

But then you somehow think they mean UMD-ND (meaning N. Dakota) and correct(?) it back to Minny-Notre Dame?
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abmarks

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82It's Manchester.  Against Lowell.
What is the rest of the regional? (knock wood)

Minny vs. Ohio State

Minny - ND

No, it's minny (minnesota) v Notre Dame.  No idea what the shorthand for UM-Duluth is but it's not minny.  And UM-Duluth v Ohio State is in FARGO.



Cincinnati
1. Denver vs. 16. Michigan Tech
8. Union vs. 9. Penn State

Fargo
2. Minnesota-Duluth vs. 15. Ohio State
7. Boston University vs. 10. North Dakota

Providence
3. Harvard vs. 14. Providence
6. Western Michigan vs. 12. Air Force

Manchester
4. Minnesota vs. 13. Notre Dame
5. Mass.-Lowell vs. 11. Cornell

Run this by me again.

Jeff says it's Manchester against Lowell and ugarte asks what are the other teams?

Then you, mistakenly I think, say Minny-OSU.

CU2007 corrects you to Minny-ND (meaning Notre Dame, not N. Dakota)

But then you somehow think they mean UMD-ND (meaning N. Dakota) and correct(?) it back to Minny-Notre Dame?


Actually, Jim,  you deciphered it.  

My bad. I clearly need more sleep before posting; I'm impressed that you figured that out.

 I mis-read the thing I quoted and thought CU had written the

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BearLover

Selection committee's prioritizing profits over merit pits us against the fourth- rather than eighth-best team in the country.

DisplacedCornellian

Quote from: BearLoverSelection committee's prioritizing profits over merit pits us against the fourth- rather than eighth-best team in the country.

fifth rather than sixth in the rankings that they actually use to make the selections, but don't let that spoil your righteous indignation.

Dafatone

It does kinda suck that we got UML and not WMU, but at this stage, I'm okay with it.

You have to go through the best teams at some point if you want to win it all.

adamw

Quote from: BearLoverSelection committee's prioritizing profits over merit pits us against the fourth- rather than eighth-best team in the country.

Why are you quoting meaningless polls to make a point?  I thought this stopped in 1998
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Trotsky

Quote from: DisplacedCornellian
Quote from: BearLoverSelection committee's prioritizing profits over merit pits us against the fourth- rather than eighth-best team in the country.

fifth rather than sixth in the rankings that they actually use to make the selections, but don't let that spoil your righteous indignation.
Here is an ideal 16-team bracket and here is the actual NC$$ bracket with PWR here (since the NC$$ are assholes and deliberately obscure that info on the bracket and I couldn't find anybody who notes it).  

If all favorites win all games except we win our games, here is our path (we are PWR 11):

Ideal: WMU + Hvd + UMD + Den = 6 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 12
Actual: Low + Minn + Den + UMD = 5 + 4 + 1 + 2 = 12

No difference in difficulty.

RichH

Quote from: DafatoneIt does kinda suck that we got UML and not WMU, but at this stage, I'm okay with it.

You have to go through the best teams at some point if you want to win it all.

WMU is getting their two injured forwards back for at least tomorrow.  Dries and Allison are tied for 3rd in scoring on that team (2nd in Points/Game), while missing 4 games. On the selection show, one of the pundits picked WMU for that region if they played, Harvard if they didn't.

Dafatone

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: DafatoneIt does kinda suck that we got UML and not WMU, but at this stage, I'm okay with it.

You have to go through the best teams at some point if you want to win it all.

WMU is getting their two injured forwards back for at least tomorrow.  Dries and Allison are tied for 3rd in scoring on that team (2nd in Points/Game), while missing 4 games. On the selection show, one of the pundits picked WMU for that region if they played, Harvard if they didn't.

Oh, then it sucks less.  I'm just happy to be in.  From here, it's up to us.

BearLover

Quote from: DisplacedCornellian
Quote from: BearLoverSelection committee's prioritizing profits over merit pits us against the fourth- rather than eighth-best team in the country.

fifth rather than sixth in the rankings that they actually use to make the selections, but don't let that spoil your righteous indignation.
Righteous indignation?  Whether the process is unfair is completely independent of whether Cornell happened to benefit or suffer in this particular case.  The two are wholly discrete questions, so I'll deal with them separately:  
1. Is the process unfair?  Yes--any pairing that takes into account attendance (i.e., profits) is necessarily doing so at the expense of merit.  
2. Was the process unfair to Cornell in this case?  Maybe slightly, maybe not at all--the above posters have done a good job arguing both sides.  

I'm not unhappy with the pairing.  I'm definitely not unhappy with it given where I predicted Cornell to finish at the start of the year.