2017-18 Schedule

Started by Jim Hyla, January 01, 2017, 11:42:24 AM

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Trotsky

I suspect the alternative to FL will be playing musical chairs every year trying to get into other tournaments, and scheduling more AH opponents for the years we fail.

I'd much rather keep FL and try to jazz it up.  Find a perennial top tier (NoDak, BC, Minny) co-host for stability.  Have a standing invite for the US major junior team as a warm up for their tourney.  Full frontal nudity and chimps.  Something.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: TrotskyI suspect the alternative to FL will be playing musical chairs every year trying to get into other tournaments, and scheduling more AH opponents for the years we fail.

I'd much rather keep FL and try to jazz it up.  Find a perennial top tier (NoDak, BC, Minny) co-host for stability.  Have a standing invite for the US major junior team as a warm up for their tourney.  Full frontal nudity and chimps.  Something.

Bread and circuses?

wakester2468

I would strongly suggest if the Florida tourney is eliminated  that CU attempt to host a tourney of their own at Lynah. An argument against might be a potential lack of attendance while students are away for the holidays. A reduced price for these games would potentially offset it buy appealing to more locals especially kids who  might get the chance to attend. Season ticket holders could be charged a lower rate. Season ticket packages for students could be bought either with or without these games.  Seems like a no brainer. Pretty sure the allure of playing at Lynah would help draw in top tier hockey schools who otherwise you wouldn't see during either semester. Would be nice to see other programs in Ithaca for a change. Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued. Best bet is it had something to do with the almighty $. Not sure what the financial arrangement was for Florida trips but I would think this would be better. Lastly, only having 13 home games this year is just too few. Any thoughts?

Jim Hyla

Quote from: wakester2468I would strongly suggest if the Florida tourney is eliminated  that CU attempt to host a tourney of their own at Lynah. An argument against might be a potential lack of attendance while students are away for the holidays. A reduced price for these games would potentially offset it buy appealing to more locals especially kids who  might get the chance to attend. Season ticket holders could be charged a lower rate. Season ticket packages for students could be bought either with or without these games.  Seems like a no brainer. Pretty sure the allure of playing at Lynah would help draw in top tier hockey schools who otherwise you wouldn't see during either semester. Would be nice to see other programs in Ithaca for a change. Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued. Best bet is it had something to do with the almighty $. Not sure what the financial arrangement was for Florida trips but I would think this would be better. Lastly, only having 13 home games this year is just too few. Any thoughts?

Let's see, the allure of playing at Lynah in December right after Christmas with no students, so no atmosphere.

That, by itself ought to have teams just willing to pay CU for the opportunity.

Sorry for being so mean, but I just don't see it.

Also, in regards to your other post, if you go back to my first post, I had attached the full ECAC schedule. So yes, it's set, all but travel partners.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

andyw2100

Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.

When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?

Beeeej

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Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.

When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?

It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

andyw2100

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Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.

When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?

It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.

Right.

I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.

Trotsky

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Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.

When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?

It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.

Right.

I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.

Two two-year runs: 59-60 and 77-78.

andyw2100

Quote from: Trotsky
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Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.

When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?

It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.

Right.

I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.

Two two-year runs: 59-60 and 77-78.

So not exactly "several years ago."   :)

wakester2468

So according to Merriam Webster, much to my dismay,  you are correct.  Several is more than a few but less than many. However, showing my age, I was at the Christmas tournament
in the late 70's. I would be curious to see the breakdown of the student to non student at games the past few years. I'm not implying that the place would be sold out by any means.
However, with reduced pricing for seniors, youth and for that matter giving season ticket holders a break for once, it would certainly be better than what we have seen in Fla.
So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose? Two more home games for those season ticket holders who would like to see some hockey at Christmas time. I went to Estero this year for the first time and was so disappointed.

Trotsky

Quote from: wakester2468So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose?

The players like the warm beaches stocked without regard to Ivy admissions and the coaching staff likes the team bonding opportunities?

upprdeck

from what i have gathered the players are not all the psyched about the florida trip even now. they would probably just fly home for a week.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: wakester2468So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose?

The players like the warm beaches stocked without regard to Ivy admissions and the coaching staff likes the team bonding opportunities?

And you have money to lose. You don't think the teams, 3 others if you'll have a tournament, are paying their own way, do you? You have to pay their transportation, room and board, as well as any perks you give them. Then there's the question of whether they expect some extra money for attending.

Finally, I still don't think it would be easy to attract the kind of schools that I think people are talking about. Again, do teams look at coming to Ithaca in late December as a wonderful opportunity? Doubtful.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

wakester2468

So rather than just speculate that it wouldn't work, why not put out feelers to a handful of teams to determine the viability of such an idea.
Not knowing the financial arrangement Cornell has had yearly for the Florida trip, it's difficult to compare the monetary ramifications.
Regarding weather, Dartmouth for many years has hosted their holiday tournament with top level participants from major conferences such as BC and Michigan to
mention a couple.  This is hockey. Not spring training baseball.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: wakester2468So rather than just speculate that it wouldn't work, why not put out feelers to a handful of teams to determine the viability of such an idea.
Not knowing the financial arrangement Cornell has had yearly for the Florida trip, it's difficult to compare the monetary ramifications.
Regarding weather, Dartmouth for many years has hosted their holiday tournament with top level participants from major conferences such as BC and Michigan to
mention a couple.  This is hockey. Not spring training baseball.

Do you know that this hasn't happened? I don't, but in Florida you have a CU hockey alum who wanted to make it work.

Maybe you could offer to do some leg work and see what's the interest. It's easy to complain, but it takes work to make something happen.

I'm sure that if someone like Craig Brush would make an offer, CU would be willing to listen.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005