Bracketology 2016-17 Style

Started by Jim Hyla, December 22, 2016, 06:54:56 AM

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Trotsky

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: martyFargo is Sold Out.

They always reserve blocks for the participating schools. Nobody who wants to go is likely to get shut out of it.
Not to mention that if NoDak gets bumped that place will be 70% empty.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: martyFargo is Sold Out.

They always reserve blocks for the participating schools. Nobody who wants to go is likely to get shut out of it.
Not to mention that if NoDak gets bumped that place will be 70% empty.

Let's go Miami. They could even get UND close to a losing record.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jkahn

Tonight's Schedule for Teams Right Below Us in PWR
UMass @ Providence
Wisconsin @ Penn St.
Col. Coll. @ St. Cloud
Mich. St. @ Ohio St.
No. Dakota @ Miami
Denver @ UNO
Maine @ Vermont
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

JasonN95

Quote from: jkahnTonight's Schedule for Teams Right Below Us in PWR
UMass @ Providence
Wisconsin @ Penn St.
Col. Coll. @ St. Cloud
Mich. St. @ Ohio St.
No. Dakota @ Miami
Denver @ UNO
Maine @ Vermont

I assume Cornell would generally benefit from the bolded teams losing, except maybe the Wisc & Penn St matchup?

upprdeck

I was wondering too whether PSU losing is better than Wisc.. Im thinking long term its better for getting in if Wisc loses, if you told me we were getting in than maybe its better if psu loses so we have a shot to pass  them.

Beeeej

However brief it may be, tonight's results have pushed us up to #9 as of 9:37pm.

EDIT: It seems to have stuck, with all of tonight's results in. w00t!
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BeeeejHowever brief it may be, tonight's results have pushed us up to #9 as of 9:37pm.

EDIT: It seems to have stuck, with all of tonight's results in. w00t!

And although their PWR leaves us at 10, Playoff Status gives us a 93% of getting in NCAA and 61% if we lose next weekend.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

upprdeck

I see us at 9 this morning..

hockey east will provide some help next week if things play out again tonight,

nd/prov means someone loses twice

vermont/bc means one loses twice but a split might help even more.

nchc root for more chalk

st cloud would play ndak
omaha plays west mich

b10.  someone between psu/osu/wisc has to lose at least twice more before they get to the finals. it could easily be 2 of them or even all 3 since they still have reg season game left.
just root for mich/msu to not win their tourney.

Hooking

#16 Badger coach Tony Granato after last night's upset of #11 Penn State: ". . . we haven't focused on what everyone else is doing. Our whole focus has been trying to get better each weekend and face each challenge and not worry about what else is going on." That and, of course, continuing to believe "We are going to wind the championship." I hope Cornell Coach and players subscribe to a similar mindset. I wish more Cornell fans did. It couldn't hurt.

andyw2100

Quote from: Hooking#16 Badger coach Tony Granato after last night's upset of #11 Penn State: ". . . we haven't focused on what everyone else is doing. Our whole focus has been trying to get better each weekend and face each challenge and not worry about what else is going on." That and, of course, continuing to believe "We are going to wind the championship." I hope Cornell Coach and players subscribe to a similar mindset. I wish more Cornell fans did. It couldn't hurt.

I'm reasonably confident our players aren't sitting around analyzing the Vermont vs BC series. I'm sure their mindset is "Just win."

I don't see any harm in the fans paying attention to other games, and how the results of those games could impact Cornell. In fact I appreciate those posters here who often take the time to spell this stuff out for those of us not as well-versed in Pairwise and RPI numbers.

If, for whatever reason, that is not something you yourself enjoy, then perhaps consider not reading this thread.

Beeeej

Quote from: Hooking#16 Badger coach Tony Granato after last night's upset of #11 Penn State: ". . . we haven't focused on what everyone else is doing. Our whole focus has been trying to get better each weekend and face each challenge and not worry about what else is going on." That and, of course, continuing to believe "We are going to wind the championship." I hope Cornell Coach and players subscribe to a similar mindset. I wish more Cornell fans did. It couldn't hurt.

So if we somehow don't win the ECAC tournament, which is unfortunately an actual, finite possibility, and yet we get an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament, you'll stop following the team until next season, right?
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Beeeej

Quote from: andyw2100If, for whatever reason, that is not something you yourself enjoy, then perhaps consider not reading this thread.

But that would mean passing up so many great opportunities to pass judgment!
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Hooking

Hockey is played on the ice, not on computers, which is a stretch for a growing number of fans. So far neither the ECAC nor the NCAA has prevented a winning team from winning a championship. It is imperative for a championship team to believe in its own abilities not just to win but to beat everyone, regardless of statistics, until a loss prevents it. It would help if fans shared such a conviction.

Beeeej

Quote from: HookingHockey is played on the ice, not on computers, which is a stretch for a growing number of fans. So far neither the ECAC nor the NCAA has prevented a winning team from winning a championship. It is imperative for a championship team to believe in its own abilities not just to win but to beat everyone, regardless of statistics, until a loss prevents it. It would help if fans shared such a conviction.

Your problem (well, one of your problems) is that you think one-dimensionally. It is possible to 1) believe in one's team's abilities to win and to beat everyone, yet also 2) hope that if one is wrong, and they don't win every single game, external circumstances will benefit the team as well, and therefore have some interest in those external circumstances as they develop. What you're actually suggesting is that if we don't all think the same way you do - believe the team can win, and not consider any other possibilities - the team will not win. Or more to the point, that believing in them hard enough will carry them to the championship.

Cornell men's hockey is not Tinkerbell.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: HookingHockey is played on the ice, not on computers, which is a stretch for a growing number of fans. So far neither the ECAC nor the NCAA has prevented a winning team from winning a championship. It is imperative for a championship team to believe in its own abilities not just to win but to beat everyone, regardless of statistics, until a loss prevents it. It would help if fans shared such a conviction.

Your problem (well, one of your problems) is that you think one-dimensionally. It is possible to 1) believe in one's team's abilities to win and to beat everyone, yet also 2) hope that if one is wrong, and they don't win every single game, external circumstances will benefit the team as well, and therefore have some interest in those external circumstances as they develop. What you're actually suggesting is that if we don't all think the same way you do - believe the team can win, and not consider any other possibilities - the team will not win. Or more to the point, that believing in them hard enough will carry them to the championship.

Cornell men's hockey is not Tinkerbell.

But Rand Pecknold might very well be Captain Hook.  ::moon::