Replacement Song for Swanee/Over There

[andyw2100]

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

Most of the remote control goalie is cute....  Even the "bend over" is funny for the first 5 seconds...  After that, it's tedious & makes them look like, oh yes, numb nuts!!!

I agree, but how are you going to get them to stop after say 3 bend overs?

Only start remote control goalie when there's a face-off in that zone. Pretty sure he'll bend over.

[Jim Hyla]

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

Most of the remote control goalie is cute....  Even the "bend over" is funny for the first 5 seconds...  After that, it's tedious & makes them look like, oh yes, numb nuts!!!

I actually like the dragged out version. #1 it shows "dedication" and #2 I think you're more likely to get into the goalies head, if that can even happen.

While not the "bend over" version, one time last night, I think it was during a video review, the students kept up a prolonged "skate, skate,.. turn, skate, skate,..". It was quite funny and since it was quiet, while everyone was waiting, I have to think their goalie knew what was happening.

But most importantly, #3, unless it's obnoxious, we shouldn't discourage any student interest and cheering. That's partially what builds long term interest.

[Dafatone]

(Is this the time to mention that remote control goalie has to go?  There is nothing worse than all the numb nuts fixated on yelling "bend over" while the play is in our end and we're trying to prevent a goal.)

Most of the remote control goalie is cute....  Even the "bend over" is funny for the first 5 seconds...  After that, it's tedious & makes them look like, oh yes, numb nuts!!!

I actually like the dragged out version. #1 it shows "dedication" and #2 I think you're more likely to get into the goalies head, if that can even happen.

While not the "bend over" version, one time last night, I think it was during a video review, the students kept up a prolonged "skate, skate,.. turn, skate, skate,..". It was quite funny and since it was quiet, while everyone was waiting, I have to think their goalie knew what was happening.

But most importantly, #3, unless it's obnoxious, we shouldn't discourage any student interest and cheering. That's partially what builds long term interest.

Yup.  Personally, I think it's a little dumb, but we could do worse than a little dumb.

[KGR11]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

Also, on the topic of trying to be politically correct, we tried to push through learning and playing a fantastic arrangement of "Forget You", but then someone decided it was a good idea to ask athletics if "we were allowed to play a song that had alternative lyrics that contained the f word." *sigh*

Did you want to bring back Mary in 2010? I don't remember turning it down, but I do remember the Gary Glitter threat.

Reading up on Swanee's history, I can see how it can be found offensive. That said, I doubt the band or anyone in Lynah ever sang the racist lyrics. Is it offensive to play, but not sing, a racist song? Colin Kaepernick probably says yes. If it is, I would argue that the most offensive song the band ever played is not Swanee but the Nazi Germany national anthem. It happens to be the current German anthem (with changed lyrics) and we played it for Krueger's senior night.

Can't say I blame the band. If there was a protest against Swanee while I was in charge, I'd probably do what they're doing now.

[LGR14]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

Also, on the topic of trying to be politically correct, we tried to push through learning and playing a fantastic arrangement of "Forget You", but then someone decided it was a good idea to ask athletics if "we were allowed to play a song that had alternative lyrics that contained the f word." *sigh*

Did you want to bring back Mary in 2010? I don't remember turning it down, but I do remember the Gary Glitter threat.

Reading up on Swanee's history, I can see how it can be found offensive. That said, I doubt the band or anyone in Lynah ever sang the racist lyrics. Is it offensive to play, but not sing, a racist song? Colin Kaepernick probably says yes. If it is, I would argue that the most offensive song the band ever played is not Swanee but the Nazi Germany national anthem. It happens to be the current German anthem (with changed lyrics) and we played it for Krueger's senior night.

Can't say I blame the band. If there was a protest against Swanee while I was in charge, I'd probably do what they're doing now.

It's also the state song of Florida. It was put on the Lynah Faithful t-shirts 3-4 years ago. The song, as it is used in Lynah, is directed at opposing teams, not members of any particular race. (I know you're not necessarily advocating for its elimination, but I just wanted to make the point again that it's ridiculous -- albeit not surprising -- for Cornell/its students to get choked up over this kind of crap when there are real issues to worry about on campus)

[Trotsky]

But most importantly, #3, unless it's obnoxious, we shouldn't discourage any student interest and cheering. That's partially what builds long term interest.

Fair point.  I feel shame.

[BearLover]

While we're on the topic of identifying the dumbest cheers, IMO the nerdiest/most cringe-inducing chant by far, and the only one I refused to take part in at Lynah, was the "Hi ho, Silver, away!" cheer + hand motions.

[KGR11]

Personally, I think the telephone cheer is becoming ridiculous. The intros for the call recipients used to be way more concise.

[upprdeck]

is that a cheer since most of the crowd cant here only 20% of what is said any more.  give them a megaphone.

[Rosey]

Personally, I think the telephone cheer is becoming ridiculous. The intros for the call recipients used to be way more concise.

Some of the funniest things I've heard at Lynah were telephone cheers with ridiculously long, involved intros with lots of detail about the player in question. But the person doing it needs to be really loud.

[Trotsky]

is that a cheer since most of the crowd cant here only 20% of what is said any more.  give them a megaphone.

In C, only 2 sections away, it is completely inaudible. I doubt anybody can hear it in the building except A and B.  It's basically an inside joke cheer (nothing wrong with that, the funniest things I've heard in the barn were one offs only about a hundred people heard).

[KGR11]

Personally, I think the telephone cheer is becoming ridiculous. The intros for the call recipients used to be way more concise.

Some of the funniest things I've heard at Lynah were telephone cheers with ridiculously long, involved intros with lots of detail about the player in question. But the person doing it needs to be really loud.

That's a fair point. The last time I was in section A (last year, Friday before senior night), I couldn't hear them. I started concentrating on trying to hear them than watching the game and cheering myself. The longevity of the cheer exacerbated the problem.

[nshapiro]

My favorite cheer was at Princeton when Grant Goeckner-Zoeller was on their team.  The Pep Band did "Give me a G, Give me an O, ... Give me a HYPHEN......what's that spell?"  followed by indistinct mumbling

[billhoward]

Loud he was in Lake Placid 3? years ago in the seminfinal game vs. Union. The details on the goalie were deep, long, and loud. IIRC, the girlfriend switched ends to be closer to the guy. After the chant, she fled the immediate vicinity.

[kla52]

That cheer has been played for what, close to 30 years now (at minimum)

This is just off the top of my head, but I am reasonably certain it hasn't been close to thirty years. If I had to set an over/under, I'd set it at fourteen.

If the band somehow decides to bring back "Swanee", could we also perhaps convince them to bring back "Mary Had A Little Lamb" (Fight, Maim, Kill) as well? My fuzzy recollection is that the band stopped playing that because it was considered too violent, but I could be mistaken.

When I was conductor, I really wanted to bring back "Mary Had a Little Lamb" but was turned down, especially since athletics was threatening to keep us from playing Gary Glitter.

Also, on the topic of trying to be politically correct, we tried to push through learning and playing a fantastic arrangement of "Forget You", but then someone decided it was a good idea to ask athletics if "we were allowed to play a song that had alternative lyrics that contained the f word." *sigh*

Did you want to bring back Mary in 2010? I don't remember turning it down, but I do remember the Gary Glitter threat.

Reading up on Swanee's history, I can see how it can be found offensive. That said, I doubt the band or anyone in Lynah ever sang the racist lyrics. Is it offensive to play, but not sing, a racist song? Colin Kaepernick probably says yes. If it is, I would argue that the most offensive song the band ever played is not Swanee but the Nazi Germany national anthem. It happens to be the current German anthem (with changed lyrics) and we played it for Krueger's senior night.

Can't say I blame the band. If there was a protest against Swanee while I was in charge, I'd probably do what they're doing now.

Yeah I did want to bring it back, but was met with hesitation...and when I asked a few upperclassmen what they thought they didn't seem to be too excited about it, so I figured it was a dead issue.

Whether or not one disagrees with the decision of the band to get rid of Swanee is not really the issue...it's more of a "we should try to find a better song than 'Over There''.

Also - apparently the band has been asked by multiple opposing rinks to not play Gonna Fly Now into Gary Glitter...