Cornell lacrosse 2017

Started by billhoward, August 03, 2016, 03:52:25 PM

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scoop85

Quote from: mountainredAnother game like this and this topic may permanently morph into a discussion of acceptance rates.  Hobart 16 Cornell 8.  In fairness, Hobart's GK had a couple of amazing saves, but he didn't steal the game from the Red.  You know an offense is struggling when it has just three assists and one of those is from the goalie.

Abysmal performance no matter how you slice it.  Granted it's an extremely young team, and we were missing 2 of our starting defenders today, but Kerwick has got to get things figured out fast.  I'm a bit less concerned with wins this year, but I expect better performance.

mountainred

Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: mountainredAnother game like this and this topic may permanently morph into a discussion of acceptance rates.  Hobart 16 Cornell 8.  In fairness, Hobart's GK had a couple of amazing saves, but he didn't steal the game from the Red.  You know an offense is struggling when it has just three assists and one of those is from the goalie.

Abysmal performance no matter how you slice it.  Granted it's an extremely young team, and we were missing 2 of our starting defenders today, but Kerwick has got to get things figured out fast.  I'm a bit less concerned with wins this year, but I expect better performance.

On the bright-ish side, Freshman Connor Fletcher looks like a keeper and the Red won the ground ball battle.  But that is faint praise.  Hobart's chances were much better than ours.  One of my partners is a big UVA fan and we normally meet up to watch the Cornell/UVA lax game.  I'm kinda glad this year's game isn't being shown.

billhoward

Quote from: mountainredOn the bright-ish side, Freshman Connor Fletcher looks like a keeper and the Red won the ground ball battle.  But that is faint praise.  Hobart's chances were much better than ours.  One of my partners is a big UVA fan and we normally meet up to watch the Cornell/UVA lax game.  I'm kinda glad this year's game isn't being shown.
Interesting it was Ryan Maloney from Victor (suburban Rochester) who was the other Cornellian on the IL Top 100 Freshmen rankings (45). The other attackman this / last week was a sophomore, Colton Rupp. So Cornell is looking good at attack.

djk26

Well, we didn't lose to Hobart by 10.  Remember last year being disappointing?  Welcome to this year.
David Klesh ILR '02

dag14

I don't think we had the guns to win this game but it could have been closer -- the Hobart goalie had some unbelievable saves in the first half.  I didn't watch the second half as closely so can't say whether he was hot for 4 quarters.

Johnny 5

Very disappointing. The radio call blamed the weather for so many errant passes.
But, the weather didn't seem to bother the home team much?
And, after touting our recruiting at attack and FOGO, their production was less than stellar for a second week.
This could be a very looooong season.
But, Army shaded Sorexcuse, so who knows!?

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upprdeck

at one point we goalie had like 12 saves on 20 shots. both games came out slow, fought back and then the other team just took over..

MattShaf

Very slow start to this year...and it doesnt look like we will have the talent to compete with Top 20 teams.  Perhaps its time to re-evaluate the recruiting process, shake up the current recruiting philosophy and rebuild from the base.

billhoward

Quote from: MattShafVery slow start to this year...and it doesnt look like we will have the talent to compete with Top 20 teams.  Perhaps its time to re-evaluate the recruiting process, shake up the current recruiting philosophy and rebuild from the base.
Used to freshmen couldn't help you because young Lew Alcindor couldn't play varsity til sophomore year. Now so many recruits are committed a year in advance that someone who this spring agrees to come to Cornell is Class of 2022 not '21.

Ken711

Quote from: MattShafVery slow start to this year...and it doesnt look like we will have the talent to compete with Top 20 teams.  Perhaps its time to re-evaluate the recruiting process, shake up the current recruiting philosophy and rebuild from the base.

Talent has slipped in the last few years for sure.

marty

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: MattShafVery slow start to this year...and it doesnt look like we will have the talent to compete with Top 20 teams.  Perhaps its time to re-evaluate the recruiting process, shake up the current recruiting philosophy and rebuild from the base.
Used to freshmen couldn't help you because young Lew Alcindor couldn't play varsity til sophomore year. Now so many recruits are committed a year in advance that someone who this spring agrees to come to Cornell is Class of 2022 not '21.

This was also true of Ed Marinaro.  The 3 vs 4 disparity was somewhat akin to the fewer games that Babe Ruth played to hit 60 - once the records started to fall.

It's been so long that I had to look this up:
https://ussporthistory.com/2015/10/22/a-brief-history-of-freshman-eligibility-and-race-in-the-ncaa/

I had no recollection of the 68 vs 72 basketball and football changes.  There must have been some Ivy BS going on too.  IIRC my freshman and sophomore years had freshman hockey teams. (70-72)

Does anyone have the history concerning when that disappeared? Arthur?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

David Harding

Quote from: marty
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: MattShafVery slow start to this year...and it doesnt look like we will have the talent to compete with Top 20 teams.  Perhaps its time to re-evaluate the recruiting process, shake up the current recruiting philosophy and rebuild from the base.
Used to freshmen couldn't help you because young Lew Alcindor couldn't play varsity til sophomore year. Now so many recruits are committed a year in advance that someone who this spring agrees to come to Cornell is Class of 2022 not '21.

This was also true of Ed Marinaro.  The 3 vs 4 disparity was somewhat akin to the fewer games that Babe Ruth played to hit 60 - once the records started to fall.

It's been so long that I had to look this up:
https://ussporthistory.com/2015/10/22/a-brief-history-of-freshman-eligibility-and-race-in-the-ncaa/

I had no recollection of the 68 vs 72 basketball and football changes.  There must have been some Ivy BS going on too.  IIRC my freshman and sophomore years had freshman hockey teams. (70-72)

Does anyone have the history concerning when that disappeared? Arthur?
From the Ivy League History Timeline
Quote from: March 1971 The Ivy League becomes the last conference in the country to endorse the national change to freshman eligibility on varsity teams. Although the Ivy Presidents do not permit the change in all team sports, by 1980 the change is complete in all team sports except in football and men's rowing.
Quote from: June and December 1991 Coincident with reducing the permitted number of recruited football players, the Council agrees to freshman eligibility in football and to 12 sessions of spring practice for football rather than one spring \\"media day.\\"
Cornell web site has data on all individual players, from which with more effort than I can afford to put in right now you could tease out the transposition.

billhoward

Albany lax at Cornell ppd to Sunday 1 p.m. "due to inclement weather." Day started at 7 degrees, it's now up to the projected high of 18 degrees. Yesterday on I-81 about 50 miles S of Cornell, 32-car pileup. http://wnep.com/2017/03/03/one-dead-after-32-car-pileup-in-schuylkill-county-i-81-still-closed-in-both-directions/

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: billhowardAlbany lax at Cornell ppd to Sunday 1 p.m. "due to inclement weather." Day started at 7 degrees, it's now up to the projected high of 18 degrees. Yesterday on I-81 about 50 miles S of Cornell, 32-car pileup. http://wnep.com/2017/03/03/one-dead-after-32-car-pileup-in-schuylkill-county-i-81-still-closed-in-both-directions/

Yeah, major snow squalls with white-out conditions around here (Lehigh Valley) at about 4 PM.  Beautiful blue skies by 5,  Weird.

Johnny 5

Postponing the inevitable?!

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