Cornell basketball coaching search

Started by Ken711, April 13, 2016, 10:19:24 AM

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Ken711

Cornell coaching search info.

Quote from: I have heard from a great source that on-campus interviews are underway at Cornell in the search to replace Bill Courtney. The three names that I have heard here are: Billy Taylor (assistant coach Iowa / former head coach Ball State and Lehigh), Brian Earl (associate head coach Princeton), and Tom Billeter (head coach Augustana / DII National Champions). There may also be 1-2 more coaches making campus visits. It sounds like the interviews will be wrapped up by the end of the week.

http://hoopdirt.com/cornell-dirt-3/

underskill

Brian Earl is official per the Score.


mountainred

Interesting.  No question Brian knows the Ivy League.  You have to assume he's bringing the Princeton system with him and it will be interesting to see how this roster adapts.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: mountainredInteresting.  No question Brian knows the Ivy League.  You have to assume he's bringing the Princeton system with him and it will be interesting to see how this roster adapts.
Just having a "system--any system--will be a pleasant change.  I don't recall Cornell basketball ever playing a "system."
Al DeFlorio '65

mountainred

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: mountainredInteresting.  No question Brian knows the Ivy League.  You have to assume he's bringing the Princeton system with him and it will be interesting to see how this roster adapts.
Just having a "system--any system--will be a pleasant change.  I don't recall Cornell basketball ever playing a "system."

C'mon Donahue hasn't been gone that long.  But over the last six years, not so much.

To steal a line from Jeff Richmond (or Kimmy Schmidt), this is going to be a fascinating transition.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: mountainredInteresting.  No question Brian knows the Ivy League.  You have to assume he's bringing the Princeton system with him and it will be interesting to see how this roster adapts.
Just having a "system--any system--will be a pleasant change.  I don't recall Cornell basketball ever playing a "system."

C'mon Donahue hasn't been gone that long.  But over the last six years, not so much.

To steal a line from Jeff Richmond (or Kimmy Schmidt), this is going to be a fascinating transition.
Donahue didn't have a system.  He had three terrific players who knew how to play.  Prior to their arrival, it was clear there was no system.
Al DeFlorio '65

mgl11

that's bs...say what you will about his ability to win w/o those top 3 guys, but his teams always featured a two-guard, motion offense with a wing playing up high. To the extent that it is probably too predictable, SD loves attacking the lane, swinging a good passing 5 up to the top of the key, and setting up stand-still 3s. The knock on him is far less that he doesn't have a system and much more that 1) he doesn't get the improvised movement that great read & react / motion offenses need and 2) he's not the most amazing recruiter (which means he is not as good of a coach as John Beilein, a fact that shouldn't shock anyone). Just because a system works better when your 3 shoots 40%+ from deep rather than under 30%, doesn't mean that it's not a system.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: mgl11that's bs...say what you will about his ability to win w/o those top 3 guys, but his teams always featured a two-guard, motion offense with a wing playing up high. To the extent that it is probably too predictable, SD loves attacking the lane, swinging a good passing 5 up to the top of the key, and setting up stand-still 3s. The knock on him is far less that he doesn't have a system and much more that 1) he doesn't get the improvised movement that great read & react / motion offenses need and 2) he's not the most amazing recruiter (which means he is not as good of a coach as John Beilein, a fact that shouldn't shock anyone). Just because a system works better when your 3 shoots 40%+ from deep rather than under 30%, doesn't mean that it's not a system.
That's BS...say what you will but I saw no system.  Pete Carril at Princeton had a system.  Joe Vancisin at Yale had a system in the 60s.  You could watch them execute it like clockwork.  If you think Donahue had a system, that's OK with me.  I didn't see it.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: mgl11that's bs...say what you will about his ability to win w/o those top 3 guys, but his teams always featured a two-guard, motion offense with a wing playing up high. To the extent that it is probably too predictable, SD loves attacking the lane, swinging a good passing 5 up to the top of the key, and setting up stand-still 3s. The knock on him is far less that he doesn't have a system and much more that 1) he doesn't get the improvised movement that great read & react / motion offenses need and 2) he's not the most amazing recruiter (which means he is not as good of a coach as John Beilein, a fact that shouldn't shock anyone). Just because a system works better when your 3 shoots 40%+ from deep rather than under 30%, doesn't mean that it's not a system.
That's BS...say what you will but I saw no system.  Pete Carril at Princeton had a system.  Joe Vancisin at Yale had a system in the 60s.  You could watch them execute it like clockwork.  If you think Donahue had a system, that's OK with me.  I didn't see it.

I think the problem is that it's hard to say you have a system, if the players can't execute it. At least it won't look like much of a system.

Also, although it's not absolutely part of a game system, if you can't recruit players to fit your plan, do you have a system?
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Ken711


Al DeFlorio

Al DeFlorio '65

billhoward

Quote from: Ken711Nice article on the hiring process of the new head coach.
http://cornellsun.com/2016/04/20/how-cornell-basketball-hired-brian-earl/
Is this the same Andy Noel who's the official eLynah pinata? From reading the Sun story, you'd think Noel knows what he's doing, big time.

My best recall of Noel is at the Sweet Sixteen basketball game up at the Carrier Dome in 2010. The Cornell will-call line is screwed up, there aren't enough people staffing them, there is a huge snaking line of Cornell fans, it's getting close to gametime, and freezing rain is falling. Rather than head inside and dry off, Noel grabs a sheaf of tickets for the players' families, hikes around outside, finds parents and family, and hands them out individually. He could have blown it off completely or he could have handed them to someone junior to him, but Noel did it himself.

RichH

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Ken711Nice article on the hiring process of the new head coach.
http://cornellsun.com/2016/04/20/how-cornell-basketball-hired-brian-earl/
Is this the same Andy Noel who's the official eLynah pinata? From reading the Sun story, you'd think Noel knows what he's doing, big time.

My best recall of Noel is at the Sweet Sixteen basketball game up at the Carrier Dome in 2010. The Cornell will-call line is screwed up, there aren't enough people staffing them, there is a huge snaking line of Cornell fans, it's getting close to gametime, and freezing rain is falling. Rather than head inside and dry off, Noel grabs a sheaf of tickets for the players' families, hikes around outside, finds parents and family, and hands them out individually. He could have blown it off completely or he could have handed them to someone junior to him, but Noel did it himself.

The fact that the will call line was screwed up is pretty typical of this era and more telling than a guy trying to make up for bad management of an important game. Also, I have multiple stories recalls on how he's a dick.

CAS

Let's wait till we see how Brian Earl does, before congratulating Andy on the search.  Some of his recent coaching selections have obviously not worked out (i.e. Courtney, Archer).