Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16

[upprdeck]

How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

a team that struggles to score and now has had 1 cleared by the D from the goal line and one taken away by a blind ref..

this team used all its brakes up pre christmas it seems.

[Scersk '97]

How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

Yeah, that was a horrible whistle. Horrible.

[andyw2100]

How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

Yeah, that was a horrible whistle. Horrible.

Really? From the replay I saw (and perhaps I can go back and watch it again and if I do perhaps I'll feel differently) it looked like the puck was under the goalie and Hilbrich poked it in from underneath him.

I'm going to have to go see if I can take a look at it again.

[upprdeck]

the goalie has his hands by his sides and the puck roles down around behind his head.  how can you rule any control in that situation?  if it was under his feet would you rule it the same way.  far different from a goalie laying on the puck

[andyw2100]

the goalie has his hands by his sides and the puck roles down around behind his head.  how can you rule any control in that situation?  if it was under his feet would you rule it the same way.  far different from a goalie laying on the puck

I watched the replay. The goalie was, in fact, laying on the puck.

As much as I'd like to say "We were robbed!", I think that was a pretty standard call. It would have taken a really slow whistle for that goal to have been allowed.

[upprdeck]

so now a harvard guy in the crease wacks the goalie and thats not interefernce?

[Scersk '97]

so now a harvard guy in the crease wacks the goalie and thats not interefernce?

He even played the puck!

[Scersk '97]

Playing angry for once!

[upprdeck]

its like they focus on the shot and ignore the other 10 things that happened.. much like the first replay that went harvards way on the clear by the D,,  did they watch the replay and notice this missed the clear boarding cross check?

[upprdeck]

best effort in awhile and no reward.  helped teams above them lost though

[upprdeck]

where did you see the goalie laying on the puck?  he was laying on his back and the puck rolled under his head? is that now control? they dont always rule control when a goalie has his glove over a puck

[andyw2100]

where did you see the goalie laying on the puck?  he was laying on his back and the puck rolled under his head? is that now control? they dont always rule control when a goalie has his glove over a puck

Are we watching the same play? To me it looked like the puck was at least below the goalie's shoulders--not under his head--and Hilbrich poked it in from under him.

[upprdeck]

a puck sliding under a prone player does not always warrant control?  now if the ref says it he lost sight there is not much you can do, it didnt take much of an effort to put it in and it could easily be under the goalie and with the helmet not even touching the puck.  If am a ref I want to make the player at least be in some position to be controlling the puck not just laying there hoping if slides under me. far different when a play is trying to squeeze it under legs or arms and actually control it.

really though the harvard goal is the one thats really a questionable call.  how do you review that and not call something with a player in the crease hitting the goalie and no puck within reach?

[andyw2100]

a puck sliding under a prone player does not always warrant control?  now if the ref says it he lost sight there is not much you can do, it didnt take much of an effort to put it in and it could easily be under the goalie and with the helmet not even touching the puck.  If am a ref I want to make the player at least be in some position to be controlling the puck not just laying there hoping if slides under me. far different when a play is trying to squeeze it under legs or arms and actually control it.

I think the ref must have whistled the play dead because he lost sight of the puck. I took some screen shots that actually show the ref whistling the play dead while the puck was still out in plain view. (The first image.) So it may have been a quick whistle, but on the other hand he may have lost sight of the puck before then.
http://postimg.org/image/m0843qns7/


In the second image, the ref has already stopped blowing the whistle, the puck is now under the goalie's shoulders, and Hilbrich has not yet started to reach under the goalie with his stick.
http://postimg.org/image/ydgcwwo2v/


In the third image, the ref has clearly stopped the play, the puck is still under the goalie's shoulders, and Hilbrich's stick is also under the goalie's shoulders, reaching for the puck.
http://postimg.org/image/yc6f3hm93/


In the fourth image Hilbrich is just about to sweep the puck from under the goalie into the net.
http://postimg.org/image/oitt4f9if/

[BearLover]

It seemed to me blowing the whistle made more sense on the 2nd Harvard goal than on the Cornell no-goal.