Tonight's game v. Penn State

Started by hypotenuse, November 29, 2014, 07:07:16 AM

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RatushnyFan

Penn State hit the post and the crossbar in a 10 second flurry in the third period when the score was 1-1.............two high quality chances.  They score that goal and we probably lose 2-1.  It was very tight and for stretches I thought we were outplayed.  Gillam played great.  I thought that we were outplayed in the first period and a good chunk of the third period.

Was that Rob Pannell on the ice during the second intermission??  I was in the presence of greatness!

Jim Hyla

Quote from: andyw2100That was the first Ivy League Digital Network game I watched this year. I don't know who was responsible for producing that "broadcast", but whomever it was should be forced to watch what they put together a few times before they're allowed to produce another game. I mean just because you have a slew of low-angle, ice-level cameras available doesn't mean you need to use them 2/3 of the time, at the expense of letting the audience see what's really going on. Given the choice of watching another broadcast like that one, or watching one being shot with just a single camera at center ice that pans and zooms appropriately, I'd take the broadcast with the single camera in a heartbeat.

This game was not typical. I think they just picked up a feed from MSG, who likely produced it. On the chat last night we had multiple complaints about the same thing.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Jim Hyla

From today's USCHO article, an interesting quote.

Quote"I'm shocked," said Cornell head coach Mike Schafer when asked about the play of his team's young goalies. "Not having Joakim Ryan on the blue line and having all of those new defensemen to go along with two new goaltenders, then looking at our defensive performance leaves me shocked."

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2014/11/30/cornell-goalies-gillam-stewart-no-longer-unknown-commodities/#ixzz3KXz3Dl6G

And more from Adam's article in CHN:

QuoteSchafer coaches patience, cycling, waiting for the high percetage shot; Gadowsky trains his teams to throw the puck on net from everywhere, and create havoc in front. They represent the two extremes of options that all coaches emply, in varying degrees, from time to time.

The result Saturday, in shot differential, was typical: Penn State outshot Cornell, 38-25.

"I told my guys, don't look at the shot clock," Schafer said. "They fire shots from everywhere. After the first period, as badly as we played (Penn State outshot Cornell, 12-5), when we tracked the statistics, they had three really good scoring chances, and we had two. Shots and plus-minus are some of the biggest misleading statistics in the game."

And:

Quote"They love to force pucks to the net," Schafer said. "That's part of their strategy, part of their philosophy, and that's why Mitch started tonight. Hayden (Stewart) had a shutout his last game, but Mitch is much better right now at controlling rebounds. He did a good job at not giving opportuntiies around the net."

And more:

QuoteIt's the first time it wasn't a sellout, but the Cornell contingent was as big as usual. Penn State, which has drawn sellout crowds to Philadlephia's Wells Fargo Center of over 19,000, had a good following, but its numbers were held down because of the football game that was being hosted in State College.

"I thought it was a great atmosphere," Gadowsky said. "I'm very familiar with Lynah Eye Rink obviously, the atmosphere there. And I thought the atmosphere here was excellent. Big Red fans were great – I expected that – and it was a great experience.

But maybe most importantly:

QuoteCornell was playing with some banged up defensemen, and top defenseman Joakim Ryan has been out of the lineup completely since the first weekend. He hopes to return next weekend.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Dutchman

Great Game Cornell ..... time to take 2 from Denver.

marty

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: andyw2100That was the first Ivy League Digital Network game I watched this year. I don't know who was responsible for producing that "broadcast", but whomever it was should be forced to watch what they put together a few times before they're allowed to produce another game. I mean just because you have a slew of low-angle, ice-level cameras available doesn't mean you need to use them 2/3 of the time, at the expense of letting the audience see what's really going on. Given the choice of watching another broadcast like that one, or watching one being shot with just a single camera at center ice that pans and zooms appropriately, I'd take the broadcast with the single camera in a heartbeat.

This game was not typical. I think they just picked up a feed from MSG, who likely produced it. On the chat last night we had multiple complaints about the same thing.

Last year we had the same thing at MSG. The consensus was that the feed is from the video displayed on the MSG scoreboard for the benefit of the crowd. We were paying voyeurs.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

andyw2100

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: andyw2100That was the first Ivy League Digital Network game I watched this year. I don't know who was responsible for producing that "broadcast", but whomever it was should be forced to watch what they put together a few times before they're allowed to produce another game. I mean just because you have a slew of low-angle, ice-level cameras available doesn't mean you need to use them 2/3 of the time, at the expense of letting the audience see what's really going on. Given the choice of watching another broadcast like that one, or watching one being shot with just a single camera at center ice that pans and zooms appropriately, I'd take the broadcast with the single camera in a heartbeat.

This game was not typical. I think they just picked up a feed from MSG, who likely produced it. On the chat last night we had multiple complaints about the same thing.

Last year we had the same thing at MSG. The consensus was that the feed is from the video displayed on the MSG scoreboard for the benefit of the crowd. We were paying voyeurs.

That's an interesting point, and would explain it more than just having picked up an MSG feed. Because if the feed was only put together for the benefit of those in attendance, most of whom probably have a pretty good view from up high, all the low shots kind of make more sense. I don't watch Rangers games, but I can't imagine that Rangers games would be produced that way for broadcast, so just the fact that it was an MSG feed alone didn't seem to be reason enough for the weird production. Now it all adds up. It's still annoying, but I'm guessing there were many, many times more people in attendance than paying to watch the ILDN feed, so it's understandable.

BMac

Great game (because we won). Msg was completely ours- just unbelievable. Against BU and Michigan it's still mostly us, but much more balanced. This year it was like hosting Brown.

The PSU fans were fun other than the guy who said he was going to "smash my f-ing face." His dad was pretty embarrassed for him and he almost tripped down the stairs as he left with two minutes left in the game. Douche. I enjoyed "hide your kids" as a chant.

billhoward

Penn State alumni and students will pick up on hockey attendance once Penn State hockey gets really good ... which perhaps crossed over as as of the first period. It also felt as if the tradition of Cornellians arriving late for game happens in NYC, too. But by midway through the game, MSG was pretty full with only the upper decks at the Penn State end (upper left in photo, the blue patches) remained empty. The Cornell end and corner that Cornell defended twice (great seats, thank you, Jeff Kahn) were full except for scattered pairs of empties. Attendance was announced as 15,027, about 3,000 shy of the MSG capacity of 18,006. No Penn State band and the Penn State mascot was a scrawny, malnourished thing you'd want to shoot if you're humane; my wife (non-Cornellian) needed three guesses to decide it was a lion.

marty

Highights

I apologize for the audio being out of sync with the highlights.  I tried to record this without the audio and had no luck.

Silent Highlights
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

billhoward

Quote from: upprdeckthe uscho people give cornell no shot in this game for what thats worth.
Maybe USCHO could see into the future but only as far as the first period was concerned. Cornell looked overmatched by a team that was playing at the club level three years ago. Thank goodness Cornell jelled. Exciting game and storybook outcome. Penn State will always have football.

hypotenuse

I plead guilty to being a late arrival. We've gone to all the MSG games but one-- including the tournament in 1969 which Cornell won 9-0 and 7-2 v. RPI and Clarkson. Anyway, we've used the games as an excuse to meet friends for a great holiday dinner and they sometimes just run late. To quote another Cornellian, "So it goes."

imafrshmn

Quote from: hypotenuseTo quote another Cornellian, "So it goes."

Oh no! Did someone die?
class of '09

Mark73

Bill Howard's point, as always, is well taken: Penn State was playing at club level three years ago -- shows you what happens when universities make the big investment. Quinnpiac was a small sleepy Connecticut school near Yale when some of us went to college -- and look what happened there. Hopefully, the defense will continue to grow and Ryan will return.

jkahn

Quote from: hypotenuseI plead guilty to being a late arrival. We've gone to all the MSG games but one-- including the tournament in 1969 which Cornell won 9-0 and 7-2 v. RPI and Clarkson. Anyway, we've used the games as an excuse to meet friends for a great holiday dinner and they sometimes just run late. To quote another Cornellian, "So it goes."
That would be St. Lawrence rather than Clarkson in the '69 tournament.  And it sounds to me like you're quoting a former #6, eh?
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

BearLover

Amazing play by McCarron on the second goal (barreling a defenseman over, great patience, perfect pass).  Still not confident, though--we were outplayed that game, at least by a little.