Attendance at Lynah

[BearLover]

As an extension of what I said above, I don't buy the technology/social life argument.  Look at college football games that are selling out 100,000-person stadiums--why aren't the kids all home texting?  The answer is that gameday at Florida State is The Thing To Do--it's part of the FSU experience.  Cornell Hockey used to be a quintessential part of the Cornell experience, but it isn't anymore.  The only thing kids love more than sending videos and texting is sending videos and texting about the awesome event they are attending.  Cornell Hockey is completely compatible with cell phones, but only if going to the games becomes synonymous with the Cornell Experience once again.

[underskill]

Check out the FSU game yesterday. Tons of empty seats.

[BearLover]

Check out the FSU game yesterday. Tons of empty seats.

ATTENDANCE: 82,300

[Jim Hyla]

Here's what I have so far. I've asked Sue Detzer if there are numbers for 2012-13 and before 2003-04.

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CU CU Opp Opp Overall Conf
Total Ave Total Ave
2013-14 61318 4088 40870 3144 17-10-5 11-7-4
2012-13 15-16-3 8-11-3
2011-12 63571 4238 43070 3313 19-9-7 12-4-6
2010-11 75365 4187 29190 2654 16-15-3 11-9-2
2009-10 68227 4264 36592 3049 21-9-4 14-5-3
2008-09 66448 4153 51261 4272 22-10-4 12-5-3
2007-08 71252 4191 35563 2736 19-14-3 12-9-1
2006-07 76125 4229 31806 2891 14-13-4 10-8-4
2005-06 65212 3836 30036 2731 22-9-4 12-3-2
2004-05 61376 3836 52321 3737 27-5-3 18-2-2
2003-04 72884 3836 32230 2930 16-10-6 13-6-3


I don't see any trends, except for the increase since it was expanded in 2006. Maybe we shouldn't have expanded and kept it sold out?

[BearLover]

Here's what I have so far. I've asked Sue Detzer if there are numbers for 2012-13 and before 2003-04.

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CU CU Opp Opp Overall Conf
Total Ave Total Ave
2013-14 61318 4088 40870 3144 17-10-5 11-7-4
2012-13 15-16-3 8-11-3
2011-12 63571 4238 43070 3313 19-9-7 12-4-6
2010-11 75365 4187 29190 2654 16-15-3 11-9-2
2009-10 68227 4264 36592 3049 21-9-4 14-5-3
2008-09 66448 4153 51261 4272 22-10-4 12-5-3
2007-08 71252 4191 35563 2736 19-14-3 12-9-1
2006-07 76125 4229 31806 2891 14-13-4 10-8-4
2005-06 65212 3836 30036 2731 22-9-4 12-3-2
2004-05 61376 3836 52321 3737 27-5-3 18-2-2
2003-04 72884 3836 32230 2930 16-10-6 13-6-3


I don't see any trends, except for the increase since it was expanded in 2006. Maybe we shouldn't have expanded and kept it sold out?

Maybe the total tickets sales have changed minimally, but the student sections are much sparser and quieter now than in recent memory (and I think almost everyone here would agree).

[Dafatone]

Here's what I have so far. I've asked Sue Detzer if there are numbers for 2012-13 and before 2003-04.

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CU CU Opp Opp Overall Conf
Total Ave Total Ave
2013-14 61318 4088 40870 3144 17-10-5 11-7-4
2012-13 15-16-3 8-11-3
2011-12 63571 4238 43070 3313 19-9-7 12-4-6
2010-11 75365 4187 29190 2654 16-15-3 11-9-2
2009-10 68227 4264 36592 3049 21-9-4 14-5-3
2008-09 66448 4153 51261 4272 22-10-4 12-5-3
2007-08 71252 4191 35563 2736 19-14-3 12-9-1
2006-07 76125 4229 31806 2891 14-13-4 10-8-4
2005-06 65212 3836 30036 2731 22-9-4 12-3-2
2004-05 61376 3836 52321 3737 27-5-3 18-2-2
2003-04 72884 3836 32230 2930 16-10-6 13-6-3


I don't see any trends, except for the increase since it was expanded in 2006. Maybe we shouldn't have expanded and kept it sold out?

Maybe the total tickets sales have changed minimally, but the student sections are much sparser and quieter now than in recent memory (and I think almost everyone here would agree).

I think it's dangerous to say something along the lines of "the 'wrong' kids are buying tickets nowadays", but... the wrong kids are buying tickets nowadays.

[Trotsky]

No robot goalie

So, on balance, the crowd has improved...

[marty]

No robot goalie

So, on balance, the crowd has improved...

Not So Fast

[Trotsky]

I don't object to it in principle.  I object to it absorbing and dominating all other cheering.  There is nothing dumber than the crowd chanting bend over, bend over while our goalie is under siege on the other side of the ice.

[Chris '03]

I don't object to it in principle.  I object to it absorbing and dominating all other cheering.  There is nothing dumber than the crowd chanting bend over, bend over while our goalie is under siege on the other side of the ice.

That part is dumb.  There's also been a now longstanding dispute about whether the cheer is telling the goalie what to do ("bend over...bend over..bend over..") or calling out his actions as he takes them ("skate, skate, skate, tuuuuuuuurn, stop, tap").  I've always found the latter to be far more effective and entertaining, particularly when the goalie tries to trip the students up because at that point we've won. The repeated bend over is in the same class as "diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie" as far as I'm concerned.

[Jim Hyla]

At least we haven't had to use this reason for canceling a game.

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Our problem was no good ice.

[elbojpb]

Perspective from a fan who lives half an hour away whose dad dragged me to Lynah to buy SRO tickets to see Dryden play, had season tickets while at school in the 80s, now get there when I can.
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• The style of play is stupifying. It's like watching a dump-n-chase replay over and over and over.
• The crackdown on student behavior / language / chants has sucked the energy out of the place. Exact same thing happened at the Domes in Elmira: PC killed the atmosphere.
• $40 for a night out on uncomfortable benches with limited view vs. $25 for a comfortable seat in a theater. The older I get, the less appealing is the game.

[Trotsky]

1. Last weekend it was anything but.  That was exciting, aggressive hockey.
2. I just can't say, though I recall us complaining about the same thing in the mid-80s.  This may be a perennial complaint.
3. The students are the ones to reach, but I agree that cheaper, GA tickets are the way to go.

[French Rage]

I don't object to it in principle.  I object to it absorbing and dominating all other cheering.  There is nothing dumber than the crowd chanting bend over, bend over while our goalie is under siege on the other side of the ice.

That part is dumb.  There's also been a now longstanding dispute about whether the cheer is telling the goalie what to do ("bend over...bend over..bend over..") or calling out his actions as he takes them ("skate, skate, skate, tuuuuuuuurn, stop, tap").  I've always found the latter to be far more effective and entertaining, particularly when the goalie tries to trip the students up because at that point we've won. The repeated bend over is in the same class as "diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie" as far as I'm concerned.

Well, isn't the whole point of it being called "remote control goalie" that the students are "controlling" what the goalie does.  It's of course easier to predict and mimic, and thus appear to control, what the goalie is doing during the "skate", "turn", and "stop" phase, and then the "bend over" becomes wishful thinking of what we all know will be the end of the whole sequence.  I forget when it was starting, I left in 2004 and feel it was just starting up then.  It can be funny if it does extend for a long time, so I like it, though as mentioned people should pay attention to what if anything is happening on the other end of the ice; and it seems more people like the participate in the "bend over" part then the other parts.  That said, it has gotten into the other goalie's head a few times.

[French Rage]

Regarding the whole Lynah mystique, there is something to be said for how that influences freshmen.  When I came in in 2000, I had been to maybe one hockey game in my life and knew little about it.  But I did know hockey was the big sport, and the Harvard game was THE place to be, so that definitely made me want to see what it was about.  My first game was just one of the exhibition games, but the way the student section was made me think it was a huge game, and it's hard not to like that kind of atmosphere.  Now maybe the team's success during my four years helped, but as long as the atmosphere was great I like to think I would keep coming back.  And maybe the lower ticket prices helped make the decision a no-brainer, but I think even if they cost a but more I still would have found it worth it.  Of course, if we went 0-30 and tickets were $50 per game I would say no, so there is likely some extreme, but in the end I think it really comes down to whether Cornell hockey is seen as a defning experience of your years on the hill or just a way to kill 3 hours.