ECAC 2014-15

Started by Trotsky, October 06, 2014, 09:08:01 PM

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marty

Quote from: martyI remain unimpressed by home teams playing consolation games in prime time with the championship played in the afternoon.  Let's hope TOSU beats the crap out of the Irish so that they wonder with which end of the Shillelagh they were hit.

And TOSU beats the Irish with their sticks, 5-1
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

Better night for the ECAC, spearheaded by the Ivies:

Cornell 3 Penn State 1
Michigan 6 RPI 0
Merrimack 2 Clarkson 1
Dartmouth 3 AIC 2
Harvard 4 Lowell 2
Quinnipiac 3 UMass 1
BU 5 Colgate 2
Brown 1 UConn 0
Yale 2 RIT 0
Michigan State 4 Princeton 2
Western Michigan 8 Union 2

Dutchman

Quote from: TrotskyBetter night for the ECAC, spearheaded by the Ivies:

Cornell 3 Penn State 1
Michigan 6 RPI 0
Merrimack 2 Clarkson 1
Dartmouth 3 AIC 2
Harvard 4 Lowell 2
Quinnipiac 3 UMass 1
BU 5 Colgate 2
Brown 1 UConn 0
Yale 2 RIT 0
Michigan State 4 Princeton 2
Western Michigan 8 Union 2

Friday
ECAC 1-2 vs HE
ECAC 1-1 vs BIG10
Saturday
ECAC 3-2 vs HE
ECAC 2-0 vs AHA
ECAC 0-1 vs NCHC
ECAC 1-2 vs BIG10

Ivy League component of ECAC did well .... 5-1. Non-Ivy was terrible .... 2-7   Some very impressive Ivy wins and the loss by Princeton was very close with Princeton battling furiously for a tie before an ENG. Nice win by Cornell too !!!!

Iceberg

It looks like BU will have to show up in the 3rd again today. Currently losing 2-0 in Hanover with the 2nd period about to end.

Dutchman

Looking over the ECAC at this point, I still believe that I am correct in my assumption that the league is stronger than it was last year. This is due in part to a stronger group of IVY's, as a whole. The competition within the league should get pretty savage in the coming weeks. The question is, will this lead to more ECAC teams making the NCAA's than in previous years. I believe the answer is no. I believe that we will end up with the usual 2-3 teams. The problem is our out of conference performance. Don't get me wrong, so far our out of conference performence is good, just not good enought to land perhaps a 4th team. We are (just barely) the second best league to the NCHC. However, the sample size is for the most part too small to draw any conclusion. We are 35-27-4 OOC (Not counting OOC against league opponents) and 17-9-2 against HE.

If I counted correctly, here are the ECAC teams that are helping our OOC record. I am including here OOC results where the team was also a league opponent.

Who is helping > or = .500 in OOC
For these 9 teams 31-14-3
HARVARD 4-0-0
DARTMOUTH 2-0-0
UNION 6-2-0
BROWN 2-1-0
COLGATE 6-3-0
YALE 2-1-0
St. LAWRENCE 4-3-1
QUINNIPIAC 4-3-1
CORNELL 1-1-1

Who is not helping < .500 in OOC
For these three teams 5-13-4
PRINCETON 1-2-1
CLARKSON 2-4-2
RPI 2-7-1

The next 6 weeks will close out much of the OOC competition. If you or your team has an opportunity to knock off an OOC opponent (especially a NCHC opponent, like Denver) it would be greatly appreciated if you did so.

Iceberg

Many high-scoring games yesterday (the notable exception being in Hamden). And I'm also left wondering if Brown will win a league game this season.

BMac

Harvard up 1-0 against q... After 16 seconds.

marty

Quote from: BMacHarvard up 1-0 against q... After 16 seconds.

Brown up 4-2 over RPI after 60 minutes. ;-)
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Dutchman

Originally Posted USCHO

It's about the halfway point in College Hockey. Good time to assess. If the season ended today, looking at the pairwise, the ECAC would only send two teams to the NCAA's, Harvard (#4) and Yale (#14) and perhaps a third team if another team won the tournament. OOC wins are critical if you want to make it to the NCAA's. We are (#26).

So where does the ECAC stand?

The ECAC, if I counted correctly, has 41 OOC games to go ..... Our current record is:

37-30-8 OOC when counting OOC against league opponents
36-29-4 OOC when not counting OOC against league opponents

Who is helping > or = .500 in OOC
For these 9 teams, their OOC record is 32-15-4

HARVARD 4-0-0 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 3
DARTMOUTH 2-0-0 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 5
YALE 2-0-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4
UNION 6-2-0 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4
BROWN 2-1-0 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4
COLGATE 6-4-0 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 2
ST. LAWRENCE 4-3-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4
QUINNIPIAC 4-3-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4
CORNELL 2-2-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 2

Who is not helping < .500 in OOC
For these three teams, their OOC record is 5-15-4

PRINCETON 1-2-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 3
CLARKSON 2-6-2 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 2
RPI 2-7-1 as of 12/10/2014 Remaining NC - 4

The next 6 weeks will close out much of the OOC competition.

Observations
#1. The three ECAC teams, Princeton, RPI and Clarkson have as many OOC loses as the rest of the league combined. Without this huge drag, the other nine teams would have the best OOC record in College Hockey.
#2. The Ivy OOC record is 12-5-3 is outstanding and would be the best in all of College Hockey if they were a separate league
#3. We have three very important OOC games coming up against three very tough HE teams, Connecticut, UML and BU. Connecticut always plays us tough and its their "Coming out Party" we are attending. UML is #2 in HE and BU is #1 in HE. Going to be very tough.
#4. This coming week our ECAC teams could go 0-6 (... always the optimist)
#5. Robert Morris is 10-1-3 but their SOS is 59 and they are ranked 33 (KRACH). St. Cloud State is 6-7-1 but their SOS is 6 and they are ranked 17 (KRACH). Scheduling and winning against tough OOC teams is critical for making the NCAA tournament. Look at Colgate last year.

Chris '03

Here's one of those things that could bite the ECAC in March: http://msumavericks.com/news/2014/12/13/MHOCKEY_1213142517.aspx

Mankato says too many guys have the flu and they canceled their game with Princeton tonight. I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

marty

Quote from: Chris '03Here's one of those things that could bite the ECAC in March: http://msumavericks.com/news/2014/12/13/MHOCKEY_1213142517.aspx

Mankato says too many guys have the flu and they canceled their game with Princeton tonight. I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.

I don't think that Princeton losing to Mankato tonight would help the ECAC. I guess they could have pulled one out but they lost last night 5-0.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Chris '03

Quote from: marty
Quote from: Chris '03Here's one of those things that could bite the ECAC in March: http://msumavericks.com/news/2014/12/13/MHOCKEY_1213142517.aspx

Mankato says too many guys have the flu and they canceled their game with Princeton tonight. I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.

I don't think that Princeton losing to Mankato tonight would help the ECAC. I guess they could have pulled one out but they lost last night 5-0.

The better princeton's sos, the better the ecac's sos. Since rpi is so important the opponents opponents winning percentage matters. If Princeton is going to lose a bunch of games this year, we'd rather they lose to Mankato than, say, Maine or sacred heart. It's not doubt a small effect but we've seen some pretty small effects be decisive. The evac has a ton of teams in the 16-30 pwr range who could use any boost.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

marty

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Chris '03Here's one of those things that could bite the ECAC in March: http://msumavericks.com/news/2014/12/13/MHOCKEY_1213142517.aspx

Mankato says too many guys have the flu and they canceled their game with Princeton tonight. I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.

I don't think that Princeton losing to Mankato tonight would help the ECAC. I guess they could have pulled one out but they lost last night 5-0.

The better princeton's sos, the better the ecac's sos. Since rpi is so important the opponents opponents winning percentage matters. If Princeton is going to lose a bunch of games this year, we'd rather they lose to Mankato than, say, Maine or sacred heart. It's not doubt a small effect but we've seen some pretty small effects be decisive. The evac has a ton of teams in the 16-30 pwr range who could use any boost.

OK.

Speaking of rpi, RPI may well help the league tonight by losing to number two BU. And you can watch the game live in HD at http://www.rpitv.org.

l'll be watching live on the beautiful Troy hill. ::popcorn::
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

imafrshmn

all 4 ECAC OOC games this weekend have been losses for league squads.

BU won 5-1 at RPI. Game was a lot tighter than score indicates.

Vermont won 2-0 at SLU.

Minnesota State-Mankato vs. Princeton was cancelled due to flu.

On friday,

Vermont won 2-1 at SLU.

MSU-Mankato won 5-0 over Princeton.

On tap Sunday,

Dartmouth hosts Sacred Heart and Clarkson travels to Michigan State.
class of '09

Trotsky

Exercise for somebody clever.  Substitute conference for team, drop the intraconference games, and build a "Conference PWR" with the conference games.