Cornell Men's Lacrosse 2015

[Ronald '09]

Figured this should start the 2015 thread:

https://twitter.com/tomf_ijsports/status/476745989710417920

Personally I'm very happy with the decision.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Figured this should start the 2015 thread:

https://twitter.com/tomf_ijsports/status/476745989710417920

Personally I'm very happy with the decision.

I think it's the right choice, too.

[billhoward]

Good choice. Would have happened sooner if we'd gone final four. Maybe it was and just not announced. As a practical matter, how stealthily could Cornell have searched for a new coach outside Cornell and kept it quiet.

Kerwick's bio says he lives in Skaneateles. Unless he has an Ithaca crash pad, that's 40 miles each way each day. He needs to be driving an all-wheel-drive diesel. Or a Tesla with a charger block in Ithaca, too.

[Josh '99]

Kerwick's bio says he lives in Skaneateles. Unless he has an Ithaca crash pad, that's 40 miles each way each day. He needs to be driving an all-wheel-drive diesel. Or a Tesla with a charger block in Ithaca, too.

My first job after graduating from Cornell was near Elmira; my manager commuted from Scranton every day, 120 miles each way.  Bought a Honda Civic just for his commute because it had really good gas mileage.  I think maybe people are just accustomed to longer commutes once you get outside the Boston-DC corridor and similarly urbanized areas around the country.

[billhoward]

Consider the opposite, that people in big urban areas are the ones more used to lengthy commutes by car or mass transit. To live in the burbs outside Manhattan and get to work, it's an hour door to door, or more. In rural areas with less traffic, such as Ithaca, you can reach affordable-housing communities 10 minutes from town. Several Cornell coaches live in Lansing and that's 10-15 minutes from campus. Going another 15 minutes doesn't lower your housing costs appreciably. Skaneateles is more of a Syracuse suburb. I could a faculty spouse with a special skill (or desire not to wait tables) who has to drive to Elmira or Syracuse for work, but that's not that common. Commuting from Scranton to Elmira sounds like an outlier case.

[Trotsky]

My first job after graduating from Cornell was near Elmira; my manager commuted from Scranton every day, 120 miles each way.  Bought a Honda Civic just for his commute because it had really good gas mileage.  I think maybe people are just accustomed to longer commutes once you get outside the Boston-DC corridor and similarly urbanized areas around the country.

It's not that unusual for people in the NoVa area to commute 50 miles each way -- particularly if they come from central VA (think: Appalachia) and can drive 100 mph for the first 20 miles.

But 120 miles each way, every day?  Your manager was either a liar or an idiot.

[rss77]

I believe David Archer lives in Horseheads which is about 30 miles away.

[Weder]

My first job after graduating from Cornell was near Elmira; my manager commuted from Scranton every day, 120 miles each way.  Bought a Honda Civic just for his commute because it had really good gas mileage.  I think maybe people are just accustomed to longer commutes once you get outside the Boston-DC corridor and similarly urbanized areas around the country.

It's not that unusual for people in the NoVa area to commute 50 miles each way -- particularly if they come from central VA (think: Appalachia) and can drive 100 mph for the first 20 miles.

But 120 miles each way, every day?  Your manager was either a liar or an idiot.

I used to work with a couple of guys who commuted from West Virginia (Charles Town area, I think) to Tysons Corner.

[billhoward]

I used to work with a couple of guys who commuted from West Virginia (Charles Town area, I think) to Tysons Corner.

Once a year you see a story in Newsweek (maybe not recently) or NY Times about the quality of life of a dad or mom in the LA basin who gets up at 3 a.m. for a 3 hour drive to work, so they could live in an affordable house with a bit of land. Old cities with good mass transit - NY Boston DC SF Chicago - may be the long-term urban winners.

[Josh '99]

My first job after graduating from Cornell was near Elmira; my manager commuted from Scranton every day, 120 miles each way.  Bought a Honda Civic just for his commute because it had really good gas mileage.  I think maybe people are just accustomed to longer commutes once you get outside the Boston-DC corridor and similarly urbanized areas around the country.

It's not that unusual for people in the NoVa area to commute 50 miles each way -- particularly if they come from central VA (think: Appalachia) and can drive 100 mph for the first 20 miles.

But 120 miles each way, every day?  Your manager was either a liar or an idiot.

Neither.  Older guy, owned his home in Scranton, job was a good fit for him after his previous employer (closer to home) closed their facility, but didn't want to relocate and uproot his wife or rent a small apartment to stay in during the week (I had coworkers who lived in Lock Haven who did that rather than move after Piper closed up shop there).  Bear in mind that gas was cheap in the late '90s (I remember paying in the ballpark of $1.20/gallon) so a 240 mile round trip commute if you're getting 30 MPG highway costs you less than $10/day or $200/month; less than even the crappy apartment I lived in that was more like $400/month.  (Leaving aside the other costs associated with the car for the sake of simplicity, which could of course tilt the balance.)  It's a lot of time on the road, but better than uprooting or only seeing your wife three days a week I guess.

[Josh '99]

Consider the opposite, that people in big urban areas are the ones more used to lengthy commutes by car or mass transit. To live in the burbs outside Manhattan and get to work, it's an hour door to door, or more. In rural areas with less traffic, such as Ithaca, you can reach affordable-housing communities 10 minutes from town. Several Cornell coaches live in Lansing and that's 10-15 minutes from campus. Going another 15 minutes doesn't lower your housing costs appreciably. Skaneateles is more of a Syracuse suburb. I could a faculty spouse with a special skill (or desire not to wait tables) who has to drive to Elmira or Syracuse for work, but that's not that common. Commuting from Scranton to Elmira sounds like an outlier case.

That's a fair point, but you're talking about longer commutes in terms of time that are still much shorter in terms of distance than what I mentioned.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

We have plenty of people here in the Lehigh Valley who commute into NYC every day.  In fact, there are regular buses from the Bethlehem Park-and-Ride into Port Authority every day.

Bastards are driving up the housing prices here.

[Trotsky]

I used to work with a couple of guys who commuted from West Virginia (Charles Town area, I think) to Tysons Corner.

That's about 50 miles.  Charles Town is 15 miles to the west of my house; Tyson's Corner is 35 miles to the east.

That's still a bad, bad commute, though.  7 east to 50 east of here is a parking lot from 6-9 and 5-8.  Commuting on off hours isn't horrible -- maybe an hour each way.  That's basically my commute.

[Rosey]

7 east to 50 east of here is a parking lot from 6-9 and 5-8.  Commuting on off hours isn't horrible

Wow. Even in Boston, 6 am is off-hours.

The traffic here doesn't really get ridiculous until 7:30, but then of course it's a parking lot until after 10.

[dag14]

off topic much?