Cornell Men's Lacrosse 2015

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CU77

Cornell now guaranteed a spot in the Ivy League tournament. Complete list of possibilities:


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billhoward

Awesome list. You didn't figure this out on a sheet of paper. It's depressing also in that Cornell almost has to win out (Brown, Princeton) to host the tournament. Almost impossible to count on Dartmouth beating Brown. Not impossible to see Harvard beating Princeton; the Tigers have been up and down.

See the past week's Inside Lacrosse columnist rating:
Quote from: Quint Kessenich10. Cornell — The Big Red lost at Harvard, their third setback of the year. The offense has gone cold. Too much reliance on Matt Donovan and Connor Buczek. Nobody else has stepped up after the top six. So Cornell gets held to eight and nine goals in their last two games. CU is shooting 27%; opponents are 30%. Look closer at CU's shooting percentage the last four games: 24% vs. Colgate, 20% vs. Penn, 22% vs. Dartmouth and 23% vs. Harvard. The Big Red have won 66% of their face-offs. Six times this season, Cornell goalies have been less than 50%. Canisius and Hofstra are on tap this week for a team with a high RPI but fading momentum. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/quint-s-top-20-a-few-teams-step-forward-some-fall-back/31583
... who also said Princeton is "in jeopardy of fading into oblivion" and "The [Brown] Bears were highly overrated based on lopsided victories against poor competition."

CU77

Easiest to just win out! That also gives Cornell sole possession of the official Ivy League Championship.

Brown will be desperate next week though. If they lose to Cornell, and Penn beats Dartmouth, Brown will be out of the ILT.

billhoward

Quote from: CU77Easiest to just win out! That also gives Cornell sole possession of the official Ivy League Championship.

Brown will be desperate next week though. If they lose to Cornell, and Penn beats Dartmouth, Brown will be out of the ILT.
I think about Cornell's tendency to underperform in key games. As does every fan of every team. OTOH, early in the season when it looked as if Yale might be the class of the league, we hammered them 14-7.

Johnny 5

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: CU77Easiest to just win out! That also gives Cornell sole possession of the official Ivy League Championship.

Brown will be desperate next week though. If they lose to Cornell, and Penn beats Dartmouth, Brown will be out of the ILT.
I think about Cornell's tendency to underperform in key games. As does every fan of every team. OTOH, early in the season when it looked as if Yale might be the class of the league, we hammered them 14-7.

If only our goalie could find his mojo.

::bang::
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew

CU77

Yeah, that would be good.

Weather forecast for Saturday in Providence not looking great ...

billhoward

Cornell moves up one spot to 9th in the April 13 media poll.
1  Notre Dame
2  UNC (beat Syracuse 17-15) (plays Notre Dame 4 pm Sat ESPNU).
3  Maryland
4  Syracuse
5  Denver
6  Duke
7  Yale
8  Albany
9  Cornell
10 Virginia
Brown stands 14 down two spots after 16-10 loss to Yale. Princeton falls to 20 from 19 after lossing to Lehigh 16-15, beating Dartmouth 16-5. Of our competition, Colgate and Hobart also got votes.

[edit add]: USILA poll keeps Cornell 10th behind not ahead of Virginia. Figures, if this is the poll that always ranked Cornell in the Harkness / early Moran era below every half-assed Confederacy team and then, first time it's a playoff, Cornell wins.

billhoward

Inside Lacrosse cites the wrong Pennsylviania school. [Edit add:] Seems wrong. It's right. Penn not Penn State is facing off against a lesser light of the ACC.

Greenberg '97

Quote from: billhowardInside Lacrosse cites the wrong Pennsylviania school.

Looks right to me.  The ACC fifth place team plays Penn in something called the "ACC-Penn Classic" at PPL park, the same weekend as the ACC tournament.

billhoward

Quote from: Greenberg '97
Quote from: billhowardInside Lacrosse cites the wrong Pennsylviania school.
Looks right to me.  The ACC fifth place team plays Penn in something called the "ACC-Penn Classic" at PPL park, the same weekend as the ACC tournament.
Indeed that is the case. Still seems bizarre. Is Penn doing the No. 5 ACC team a favor and being fed to the sharks, or vice versa.

Chris '03

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Greenberg '97
Quote from: billhowardInside Lacrosse cites the wrong Pennsylviania school.
Looks right to me.  The ACC fifth place team plays Penn in something called the "ACC-Penn Classic" at PPL park, the same weekend as the ACC tournament.
Indeed that is the case. Still seems bizarre. Is Penn doing the No. 5 ACC team a favor and being fed to the sharks, or vice versa.

I think this is clever. Penn is guaranteed an acc opponent and ACC5 is guaranteed a game despite missing their tournament. Theoretical boost to either team's tourney hopes. I'd rather sign for ACC5 blind most years than fill out the schedule with a canisius or similar.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

billhoward

Inside Lacrosse Top 25 Freshmen has no one from Cornell listed. There are later lists coming for 2015.

Ivy, NYS and nearby PA (Bucknell) in top 25
24 Aran Roberts D Princeton
23 Joe Lang Harvrd A/b]
21 Jake Miller Brown D
16 Anthony Abbadessa Colgate A
15 Will Sands Bucknell A
7 Ben Reeves A Yale
3 Connor Fields A Albany
(1 and 2 so far are Trevor Baptiste Denver FO and Justin Guerding Duke A 52 points)

Last year Christian Knight was 22, Dylan Molloy of Brown 17. So far (since starting in 2010), no #1 freshman has won the Tewaaraton.
Top rookie
2014: Zach Miller, Denver
2013: Case Matheis, Duke
2012: Matt Poillon, Lehigh
2011: Nicky Galasso, North Carolina
2010: Mike Chanenchuk, Princeton

billhoward

Media poll 4/20/15 drops Cornell 9 to 12. Brown up 14 to 10.

Top four-loss teams are 6 Duke, 9 Virginia, 11 Ohio State, 12 Cornell, 13 Georgetown (5 losses), 14 Princeton (was 20 last week, so look what a one-goal win over Harvard does), then 15-20 all 4 or 5 losses. Colgate 8-4 moved into the rankings at 18. NYS has teams at 3 Syracuse, 7 Albany, 12 Cornell, 18 Colgate, 19 Stony Brook.

USILA poll not in yet. USILA poll 4/20 vis Inside Lacrosse shows Cornell holding steady at 10 after the Brown debacle and (is this right?) and Brown falling from 12 to 13. It may be the old poll ran again but with the results fromlast week and upcoming games for week of 4/20 show. Note in the Upcoming Games notes it shows Cornell playing #14 Princeton and Princeton at #12 Cornell. That seems more like it.
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RANK    SCHOOL NAME AND AGAIN W-L       VOTES 1ST    LAST WEEK AND UPCOMING[/b]
1 Notre Dame Notre Dame(9-1) 419 (20) 1 W vs #2 North Carolina 15-14
2 North Carolina NCarolina(12-2) 390 (1) 4 L @ #1 Notre Dame 14-15
3 Maryland Maryland (12-1) 379 (0) 3 W @ #11 Ohio State 10-9 vs Johns Hopkins
4 Syracuse Syracuse (9-2) 359 (0) 2 W vs Hobart 18-5
5 Denver        Denver (10-2) 342 (0) 5 W vs Providence 13-9 @ #17 Marquette
6 Duke     Duke (10-4) 313 (0) 7 W @ #19 Stony Brook 17-11, W @ #17 Marquette 15-8
7 Yale     Yale (9-3) 268 (0) 9 L @ #7 Albany 11-12 @ Harvard
8 Albany   Albany (11-2) 260 (0) 8 W @ Bryant 10-8, W vs #8 Yale 12-11 @ Siena, vs UMBC
9 Virginia Virginia (9-4) 259 (0) 6 W vs #13 Georgetown 12-9 @ Penn
[b][color=#FF0000]10 Cornell Cornell (9-4) 245 (0) 10 L @ #10 Brown 6-15 vs #14 Princeton[/color][/b]
11 Ohio State      Ohio St(10-4) 221 (0) 11 L vs #3 Maryland 9-10 @ Rutgers
12 Towson     Towson (9-4) 148 (0) 16 L vs Hofstra 2-9 @ Drexel
13 Brown     Brown (10-3) 132 (0) 12 W @ Providence 15-11, W vs #12 Cornell 15-6 @ Bryant, @ Dartmouth
14 Georgetown Georgetown(8-5) 131 (0) 17 L @ #9 Virginia 9-12 vs St. John's
15 Marquette   Marquette(10-4) 129 (0) 15 L vs #6 Duke 8-15 vs #5 Denver
16 Loyola   Loyola (7-7) 90 (0) 19 L @ #20 Bucknell 9-10 vs Army
17 Army     Army (8-5) 80 (0) 13 L vs #18 Colgate 5-8 @ Loyola
18 Navy     Navy (8-4) 71 (0) -
19 Princeton       Princeton (8-4) 69 (0) 14 W vs Harvard 12-11 [b][color=#FF0000]@ #12 Cornell[/color][/b]
20 Stony Brook     Stony Br (11-4) 52 (0) 18 L vs #6 Duke 11-17, W vs Binghamton 14-13 @ Hartford
Receiving Votes: Colgate, Johns Hopkins, Fairfield, Richmond, Bucknell, Lehigh, Penn, Marist

ugarte

15-10 over princeton. Share of the ivy title, #2 seed in the ivy tournament.

CU77

Ivy Tournament: Brown v Yale, Cornell v Princeton in Providence