Alumni in the pros - March 2014

[Larry72]

Here is the story on Andy signing with the Everblades on CornellBigRed.com

[KeithK]

Here is the story on Andy signing with the Everblades on CornellBigRed.com

So did ndy sign a contract specifically with the Everblades or is this a developmental contract with one of their two NHL affiliates (Carolina and Tampa Bay)? Hockey has such an odd system of minor league affiliations (compared to baseball, which I am much mroe famiiar with).

[BearLover]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

[scoop85]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

[BearLover]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

[Trotsky]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

There seem to be two bumps -- one just as the season ends, and then one sometime in late July / easily August --- not sure what that's about, maybe when CBA salaries roll over.

[KeithK]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

A lot of guys do so they can get some pro games in this season. But more than a few guys don't sign until the summer.

[KeithK]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

There seem to be two bumps -- one just as the season ends, and then one sometime in late July / easily August --- not sure what that's about, maybe when CBA salaries roll over.

Might be related to the BA.  Or it might just reflect two groups of players.  One set had their minds made up to sign and were eager to get started as soon as possible.  The other set needs time to decide whether to go pro or not.  Once you've missed the end of this hockey season there's no reason to sign until it's getting close to training camp.

[Chris '03]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

There seem to be two bumps -- one just as the season ends, and then one sometime in late July / easily August --- not sure what that's about, maybe when CBA salaries roll over.

Might be related to the BA.  Or it might just reflect two groups of players.  One set had their minds made up to sign and were eager to get started as soon as possible.  The other set needs time to decide whether to go pro or not.  Once you've missed the end of this hockey season there's no reason to sign until it's getting close to training camp.

I think the summer signings probably have a lot to do with summer prospect camps and what players are told/believe about their place in the organization.

[MattS]

Do really feel that one of the non-seniors will jump ship? I personally feel like only Ryan is ready to make a move to the pros. The rest I do not feel that way.

[Dafatone]

Do really feel that one of the non-seniors will jump ship? I personally feel like only Ryan is ready to make a move to the pros. The rest I do not feel that way.

We've had people who weren't ready jump ship before, and if I were a very talented player who, while great, has improved a little less than hoped, I might think that jumping now would be better than waiting another year and seeing my stock drop or something.

But I agree with your point about readiness.

[MattS]

Do really feel that one of the non-seniors will jump ship? I personally feel like only Ryan is ready to make a move to the pros. The rest I do not feel that way.

We've had people who weren't ready jump ship before, and if I were a very talented player who, while great, has improved a little less than hoped, I might think that jumping now would be better than waiting another year and seeing my stock drop or something.

But I agree with your point about readiness.

I agree with you about some players leaving for their own reasons which might not have anything to do with readiness. I was just curious about who people thought was possibly ready to move to the pros.

[redice]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

There seem to be two bumps -- one just as the season ends, and then one sometime in late July / easily August --- not sure what that's about, maybe when CBA salaries roll over.

Might be related to the BA.  Or it might just reflect two groups of players.  One set had their minds made up to sign and were eager to get started as soon as possible.  The other set needs time to decide whether to go pro or not.  Once you've missed the end of this hockey season there's no reason to sign until it's getting close to training camp.

Academics plays no roll in this decision making process?   I don't know any player's academic status.   But some of these players turning pro in March must be abandoning or, at least, delaying their degree.    For players in that situation, I know they can come back & complete their studies at a later date.    But, to abandon that for playing time in the ECHL seems crazy to me.    Joe N. going directly to the NHL maybe....   But, Andy to the ECHL?

[Trotsky]

Ferlin and Ryan.  I don't think either is ready, but they get press and there's always some degree of flight risk.  And as people have said above, we've had players mistime their jumps before (Duffus, JMP, Hynes).

[MattS]

Ferlin Watch 2014: Can we assume that Brian plans to remain with the Big Red given that he has not (yet?) signed a pro contract?

Too soon for that assumption

I knew I was jumping the gun a bit, but it appears as though everyone who signed a contract did so immediately upon their collegiate season ending.

There seem to be two bumps -- one just as the season ends, and then one sometime in late July / easily August --- not sure what that's about, maybe when CBA salaries roll over.

Might be related to the BA.  Or it might just reflect two groups of players.  One set had their minds made up to sign and were eager to get started as soon as possible.  The other set needs time to decide whether to go pro or not.  Once you've missed the end of this hockey season there's no reason to sign until it's getting close to training camp.

Academics plays no roll in this decision making process?   I don't know any player's academic status.   But some of these players turning pro in March must be abandoning or, at least, delaying their degree.    For players in that situation, I know they can come back & complete their studies at a later date.    But, to abandon that for playing time in the ECHL seems crazy to me.    Joe N. going directly to the NHL maybe....   But, Andy to the ECHL?

If I was going to make a move like Andy did. My thought process would be that Cornell is going to be around for years to come and I can get my degree then, but a possible pro career might be a now or never type of thing.

I'm just speculating on how one comes to the decision he did.