Alumni in the pros - March 2014

[Josh '99]

So not only do my Penguins not add Moulson, but they added Lee Stempniak.  Lee Goddamned Stempniak!

Your team was already full of hacks from schools Cornell fans don't like (including Dartmouth), what's one more?  :-}

Tanner Glass is the only one from once I started following Cornell hockey on (I think).  Craig Adams was before my time, and Lovejoy's gone.  This makes two.  Unless I'm missing someone.

Augh.

I guess it depends where you draw the line on schools we don't like.  You've got some BC guys there too.

[Swampy]

So not only do my Penguins not add Moulson, but they added Lee Stempniak.  Lee Goddamned Stempniak!

Your team was already full of hacks from schools Cornell fans don't like (including Dartmouth), what's one more?  :-}

Tanner Glass is the only one from once I started following Cornell hockey on (I think).  Craig Adams was before my time, and Lovejoy's gone.  This makes two.  Unless I'm missing someone.

Augh.

I guess it depends where you draw the line on schools we don't like.  You've got some BC guys there too.

What schools DO we like? I guess Wisconsin would be OK.

[Dafatone]

So not only do my Penguins not add Moulson, but they added Lee Stempniak.  Lee Goddamned Stempniak!

Your team was already full of hacks from schools Cornell fans don't like (including Dartmouth), what's one more?  :-}

Tanner Glass is the only one from once I started following Cornell hockey on (I think).  Craig Adams was before my time, and Lovejoy's gone.  This makes two.  Unless I'm missing someone.

Augh.

I guess it depends where you draw the line on schools we don't like.  You've got some BC guys there too.

What schools DO we like? I guess Wisconsin would be OK.

A friend of mine has wondered this, since every time I mention an NHL player I know from college, it's in a disparaging light.

I think I like Clarkson, as far as ECAC teams go.  RPI's alright.  Of the Ivies, I guess Brown's my 2nd favorite.  More accurate to say fifth least favorite, though.

[Trotsky]

Of the Ivies, I guess Brown's my 2nd favorite.  More accurate to say fifth least favorite, though.

I have no problem with Columbia, the "shitty Ivy."  Their students are probably the most insufferably "Urban Baby," but the institution itself is a nice idea, if relocated to say Denver or Atlanta.

Brown itself is pretty ridiculous -- Reed College with a larger endowment -- but it can stay for the H. P. Lovecraft allure.

Dartmouth is fun for the comic relief.

Penn is basically Cornell transplanted to Detroit.

HYP can die in a fire.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Hockey schools I dislike:  Sucks, Minnesota, BU.  Especially Sucks.  That's personal.

Hockey schools I respect:  NoDak, Wisconsin, UNH

Regarding other Ivies, I'll tease someone or boo when I hear someone went to another Ivy school.  Especially with my sister, who went to Penn.  But it's all in fun.

[Jim Hyla]

Not to pick on anyone's post in particular, but for a long time I've wondered why people dislike other schools, teams, etc. I mean when we are playing them, I go for it, but before and after, why do I, or anyone, need to dislike them? I think it's funny to see fish on the ice, but should I hate, despise, dislike (you pick the word) Harvard so much, that if one of their players goes to an NHL team, I need to dislike that team? I live in Syracuse, and when we play them I surely want to beat them, but afterwards, do I have to have bad feelings about them? I hate the idea of big time NCAA athletics, but I don't hate the school, just because they play within the system. When my daughter went to pick a college, she chose SU, as they have one of the most varied language departments that she saw, more than CU, it seemed. Like many, and maybe most, other students, she could care less about sports and whether SU wins or loses. Are we supposed to dislike all students who go to one of the schools we dislike?

I loved going to Boston for the ECACs in the 60s and 70s. You'd come knowing that most other fans were going to cheer against you, as much or more than they were cheering for another school. It was great when, after all that, you could come out a winner. But I still want to go out and have fun with them afterwards. One of the best things about going to away games with a Lodboa jersey on, is to have other schools fans come up and talk about how good he and those teams were. How much they enjoyed the games, even when they lost.

Maybe I've grown soft in my old age, and you know I'll cheer vociferously when we're on the ice, but afterwards, I'd rather have a beer and talk good hockey.

[RatushnyFan]

I went to Michigan for grad school and really liked the university and the hockey team.  They copied our cheers but Yost was a nice environment when I went there and half the team made it to the NHL.

What about Union?  They've built up quite a program in my view.  Not sure what the fan base is like.  Ylae is also coming around, no?  Sure, they're a rival, but they drawing some excellent recruits.  I'm not a fan of Quinnipiac's campus environment although they have some nice players.

[marty]

Not to pick on anyone's post in particular, but for a long time I've wondered why people dislike other schools, teams, etc. I mean when we are playing them, I go for it, but before and after, why do I, or anyone, need to dislike them?

Maybe I've grown soft in my old age, and you know I'll cheer vociferously when we're on the ice, but afterwards, I'd rather have a beer and talk good hockey.

Not soft but maybe wise.  My son is an Eli and hates Harvard during the games and especially during "The Game" but long ago I realized it didn't translate to hatred after the games,  He was part of the Yale Glee Club and the schools did concerts together and put each other up (provided dormitory arrangements) when hosting the other club on campus.  Their songs show funny ridicule of Harvard and the history of Yale being formed as a break away from that school in Cambridge are known well.

You may truly hate the other team but you can root against them without hating the individuals or the school.

(Now Union fans and players are excepted in this conversation ;-)  )

[billhoward]

Penn is basically Cornell transplanted to Detroit.

Excellent line even if Detroit is a tragedy (built on hubris and hydrocarbons). Reminiscent of "New Haven minus Yale equals Bridgeport."

[Trotsky]

Reminiscent of "New Haven minus Yale equals Bridgeport."

Never heard this before.  That's just cold, man.  :-O

[Trotsky]

Not to pick on anyone's post in particular, but for a long time I've wondered why people dislike other schools, teams, etc. I mean when we are playing them, I go for it, but before and after, why do I, or anyone, need to dislike them?

Disliking schools for the type of student they attract and/or what they stand for is fine.  I doubt anybody above 35 degrees North or an IQ of 90 (but I repeat myself) actually hates a school based solely on a sports rivalry.

[marty]

Penn is basically Cornell transplanted to Detroit.

Excellent line even if Detroit is a tragedy (built on hubris and hydrocarbons). Reminiscent of "New Haven minus Yale equals Bridgeport."

And yet Bridgeport equals the only city that draws fans for hockey regionals.

[Josh '99]

Not to pick on anyone's post in particular, but for a long time I've wondered why people dislike other schools, teams, etc. I mean when we are playing them, I go for it, but before and after, why do I, or anyone, need to dislike them?

Disliking schools for the type of student they attract and/or what they stand for is fine.  I doubt anybody above 35 degrees North or an IQ of 90 (but I repeat myself) actually hates a school based solely on a sports rivalry.

This sounds about right.  "Don't like" in my original post really should be in air quotes.  I guess there are a couple of different categories.  There are a few individuals I genuinely dislike for thuggery-related reasons (Bob Gaudet, Willie Mitchell, Mark Morris, Brooks Orpik come to mind) or for being obnoxious (Gaudet again, Tim Thomas, Chris Kunitz).  There are guys I "hate" but don't really hate for playing well against Cornell (Dominic Moore, recent Yale teams).  But, by and large any antipathy for players or teams or schools as a whole is limited to during the games (or the shitshow that is the USCHO Fan Forum at NCAA Tournament time); I have friends and friendly coworkers from all kinds of schools I "don't like".  I really was just giving Dafatone a hard time over all the non-Cornell former NCAA guys on the Pens.

[Josh '99]

Penn is basically Cornell transplanted to Detroit.

You might have to update this; West Philly has come a long way over the past ~20 years.

[Dafatone]

Not to pick on anyone's post in particular, but for a long time I've wondered why people dislike other schools, teams, etc. I mean when we are playing them, I go for it, but before and after, why do I, or anyone, need to dislike them?

Disliking schools for the type of student they attract and/or what they stand for is fine.  I doubt anybody above 35 degrees North or an IQ of 90 (but I repeat myself) actually hates a school based solely on a sports rivalry.

I'm pretty sure I hate Dartmouth because of Bob Gaudet.  Well, Gaudet, the other goons, the connection between their frat behavior and wall street that Rolling Stone pointed out... but mostly Gaudet.

North Dakota's high up on my hate list because of Ralph Engelstad.  They can come off the list as soon as they change their logo/mascot.

I guess it depends on what you mean by hate.  The hate doesn't really carry over to non-sports; I wouldn't hold it against someone that they went to Dartmouth or anything like that.  I hate Duke basketball and Duke is my cousin's first choice, last I checked.  If he winds up there, it wouldn't change my opinion of him.

I'd still give him shit for it though, because come on.