Cornell 1, Dartmouth 1

Started by dbilmes, January 18, 2014, 04:14:21 PM

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sah67

Gaudet's response:

QuoteGaudet said his wing was himself injured by an opponent's hit during a shift shortly before the confrontation and allowed his simmering anger to get the best of him.

"I can't condone what he did, obviously, but I watched it on video and he didn't hit (Bardreau) in the head or anything," Gaudet said. "It was one of those plays where he still had the energy of the game" after the whistle.


marty

"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

TimV

Just to make sure I understand: Neiley was "himself injured by an opponent's hit during a shift shortly before"  then recovered, and retaliated against a different player 5 seconds after the final buzzer?  Is that right?::wtf::

His DQ should be for our game.  I'd hate to lose one of our guys to a DQ the night before we play Harvard.
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andyw2100

Quote from: sah67Gaudet's response:

QuoteGaudet said. "It was one of those plays where he still had the energy of the game" after the whistle.


Wouldn't it be great if after the Dartmouth game at Lynah if instead of shaking Gaudet's hand Schafer just leveled him, and then, looking down at him on the ice, said, "Sorry. I just still had the energy of the game."

BMac

I would pay real dollars to see Schafer throw a haymaker at Gaudet.

But of course, I don't actually want that. Then we'd be in the news for the things I'm glad we're never in the news for.

Trotsky

Quote from: BMacI would pay real dollars to see Schafer throw a haymaker at Gaudet.

But of course, I don't actually want that. Then we'd be in the news for the things I'm glad we're never in the news for.
A win will be revenge enough, particularly since that will be the final weekend push for a bye.

BearLover

Any guesses regarding Bardreau's health?  I guess it's impossible to say, but that's what I was really asking about.

kaelistus

This is one of those few times where I truly think a DQ is not enough. If you compare this type of thing with the NHL's penalties as of late (Thornton for example), a multiple game penalty should be awarded.
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Josh '99

I know generalizing is bad, but: man, Dartmouth are a bunch of bleeping poopyheads.

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Dafatone

Quote from: kaelistusThis is one of those few times where I truly think a DQ is not enough. If you compare this type of thing with the NHL's penalties as of late (Thornton for example), a multiple game penalty should be awarded.

I agree.  I think part of the problem is that this doesn't happen all that often in college hockey, so there isn't as much of a precedent for how to deal with such a hit.  Thornton's ambush was worse, but not necessarily by all that much, and that game was much more out of hand in both directions (that Neal knee to Marchand's head was awful, and I'm a Pens fan).

David Harding

Quote from: kaelistusThis is one of those few times where I truly think a DQ is not enough. If you compare this type of thing with the NHL's penalties as of late (Thornton for example), a multiple game penalty should be awarded.

With some deep thinking, perhaps the refs could have come up with two or three infractions.  
Quote from: NCAA rule bookA player may be assessed more than one disqualification penalty in a game.  

The progressive game-disqualification structure shall be:
1. First disqualification penalty—that game plus one.
2. Second disqualification penalty—that game plus two.
3. Third disqualification penalty—that game plus three.
4 Fourth disqualification penalty—that game plus four.
(The progression shall continue after the fourth disqualification penalty.)

marty

Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: kaelistusThis is one of those few times where I truly think a DQ is not enough. If you compare this type of thing with the NHL's penalties as of late (Thornton for example), a multiple game penalty should be awarded.

With some deep thinking, perhaps the refs could have come up with two or three infractions.  
Quote from: NCAA rule bookA player may be assessed more than one disqualification penalty in a game.  

The progressive game-disqualification structure shall be:
1. First disqualification penalty—that game plus one.
2. Second disqualification penalty—that game plus two.
3. Third disqualification penalty—that game plus three.
4 Fourth disqualification penalty—that game plus four.
(The progression shall continue after the fourth disqualification penalty.)

Ref as judge jury and executioner.  I don't think it is realistic to expect two DQs for one infraction determined by the referee.

I do think it is realistic to expect that the ECAC will up the penalty.  We are waiting but I'm not into oxygen deprivation in the interim.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

RichH

Quote from: martyI do think it is realistic to expect that the ECAC will up the penalty.  We are waiting but I'm not into oxygen deprivation in the interim.

There are certainly precendents in the past year:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/30_armys_plageman_suspended.php
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/28_hockey_east_suspends_northeasterns.php
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/17_atlantic_hockey_suspends_pair.php
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/01/22_hockey_east_suspends_bus.php


Most notably, this item specifically mentions ECAC's "supplemental discipline process" for the CU-QU playoff game 1 events:  http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/03/16_quinnipiacs_van_brabant_suspended.php

KeithK

Quote from: marty
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: kaelistusThis is one of those few times where I truly think a DQ is not enough. If you compare this type of thing with the NHL's penalties as of late (Thornton for example), a multiple game penalty should be awarded.

With some deep thinking, perhaps the refs could have come up with two or three infractions.  
Quote from: NCAA rule bookA player may be assessed more than one disqualification penalty in a game.  

The progressive game-disqualification structure shall be:
1. First disqualification penalty—that game plus one.
2. Second disqualification penalty—that game plus two.
3. Third disqualification penalty—that game plus three.
4 Fourth disqualification penalty—that game plus four.
(The progression shall continue after the fourth disqualification penalty.)

Ref as judge jury and executioner.  I don't think it is realistic to expect two DQs for one infraction determined by the referee.

I do think it is realistic to expect that the ECAC will up the penalty.  We are waiting but I'm not into oxygen deprivation in the interim.
I think the refs did the right thing. The hit was egregious enough that he clearly deserved a DQ for it. But let the league office decide whether any additional punishment is warranted after reviewing the tape.