Alumni Heroics

[cbuckser]

Pete Shier '78 and his son Kevin pulled a man from a burning car on Monday.

[Roy 82]

Pete Shier '78 and his son Kevin pulled a man from a burning car on Monday.

His son was "making a trip to New York state to visit the campus of an NCAA university".

[David Harding]

Pete Shier '78 and his son Kevin pulled a man from a burning car on Monday.

His son was "making a trip to New York state to visit the campus of an NCAA university".

The most direct route from Toronto to Ithaca would not have taken them through DeWitt.  Or to Troy or Schenectedy.  Or Potsdam or Canton.  I'd guess Hamiliton.

[Jim Hyla]

Pete Shier '78 and his son Kevin pulled a man from a burning car on Monday.

His son was "making a trip to New York state to visit the campus of an NCAA university".

Based upon where the accident occurred, it's not likely they were going to Cornell. More likely Colgate, Union or RPI. Maybe Union, since they had a Wednesday game. Both RPI and Colgate have home games this weekend.

[redice]

I'm not so sure "Alumni Heroics" the correct title here.

In reading the article linked in the first posting, Peter Shier didn't even seem sure about stopping.  

My dad asked if we should stop; then I said 'yes'. You see people doing things like that on the news, but you never think it's going to happen to you but obviously I'm glad we stopped and helped out."

And, it was Kevin Shier and another man who pulled the soldier from his burning truck.

So, let's give Kevin Shier his just congratulations on being a brave young man, of whom his parents should be chest-thumping proud!!!

Not meaning to trash Peter Shier or any other alumnus.    But, let's acknowledge the true hero here, Kevin!!!    How many here would have done what he did?

[dag14]

There were 5 people who stopped to help, including the Shiers.  It took all of them to save his life, even if they didn't all actually haul the guy out of the burning vehicle.  I saw an interview with two of the other "heroes"  -- who are lawyers from Syracuse.  They made it clear that but for the collective effort it might have ended in tragedy.

[redice]

There were 5 people who stopped to help, including the Shiers.  It took all of them to save his life, even if they didn't all actually haul the guy out of the burning vehicle.  I saw an interview with two of the other "heroes"  -- who are lawyers from Syracuse.  They made it clear that but for the collective effort it might have ended in tragedy.

Neither of us were at that accident scene.  And frankly I don't see where the profession of any of the interviewees has any relevance here.    If the intent is to paint Peter Shier as a hero, you don't know that.   Honestly, I don't know, for sure, that he's not.   My point is that trying paint Peter Shier a hero, based on the evidence presented  is pure embellishment because he is a Cornell Alumnus.      And when you mix it with nary a word about his obviously heroic son, I think it's shameful.

Pete is known to frequent this site.    I expect he'd enjoy reading words of praise about his son.  

I don't expect any here to agree with these words, but felt it needed to be "said".

[billhoward]

Good, let's start a battle on a Cornell hockey appreciation-discussion site about whether one of Cornell's best players and his son are heros, in what proportion, or just guys who were there.

As to whether a person's profession has news value: Two of the rescuers were lawyers. That is a punch line waiting. Either "Satan ... fires of hell ... professional courtesy" or "... so the second lawyer said, 'Here, I've got *two* business cards."

[redice]

No battle here.   I call "bullshit" where I see it.   When I saw "Alumni Heroics", then read the story, I called "bullshit".

Based on the article, I credit Peter Shier with raising a fine young man for his son- 30  seconds from being involved in an explosion!     Wow!!!

I think that is more worthy of recognition than all of the great hockey accomplishments in the world!    I'll bet  Pete's pretty proud of this, as well.

I have no more to say on this.......

[Jim Hyla]

Here's the latest story of what happened. And yes, he was traveling to Union.

[jeff '84]

Here's the latest story of what happened. And yes, he was traveling to Union.

Great story, thanks for posting. (Note in this version, there's no question mark -- "I think we should stop," [his]father says..." )

[marty]

No battle here.   I call "bullshit" where I see it.   When I saw "Alumni Heroics", then read the story, I called "bullshit".

Based on the article, I credit Peter Shier with raising a fine young man for his son- 30  seconds from being involved in an explosion!     Wow!!!

I think that is more worthy of recognition than all of the great hockey accomplishments in the world!    I'll bet  Pete's pretty proud of this, as well.

I have no more to say on this.......

OK, fair enough, but while you have our attention could you fill us in on what happened in the JonBenet Ramsey case?

[redice]

Thanks, Jim.

Marty:  I hope that is said in jest.   If not, try not to be such an ass.......    It's unbecoming.

[MattS]

Yeah it is highly important that a thread title is perfectly descriptive to everyone. Much more so than portion about how people helped save a person life.

[French Rage]

I think getting caught up in petty arguments and pedantics is clearly what a thread like this should be about.  Well done everyone.