Red Hot Hockey

Started by jeff '84, November 25, 2013, 10:14:13 PM

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BMac

Don't worry about the celebrity thing- it's kind of how we don't "do" commercials about our school. Dryden was in the building. We just don't scream about it.

billhoward

Quote from: David HardingI was disappointed in the ratio of BU celebrities vs. Cornell celebrities who were introduced.
A Cornellian didn't score that goal at the 1980 Olympics, and we don't have any recent former coaches to show off. Their dean of students, Ken Elmore, is also the warm and fuzzy face of BU; when half the graduating class committed to a class gift in 2011, Elmore jumped in the Charles River with suitable advance notice to the media. Probably necessary because BU's president for three decades, John Silber, was widely regarded as an SOB (and as the person who took BU from safety school to a match for NYU and George Washington). Cornell's dean of students, Kent Hubbell, is more low key, as is Cornell's public face at a lot of sports events, Susan Murphy, VP of Student and Academic Services, who is more involved in quiet pursuits such as expanding Gannett Clinic. If Ken Dryden '70 was in the building, that would have been nice to have shown him on the jumbotron (and what a high-res image those screens provided). Maybe Matt Moulson could have done a shout-out from the Prudential Center in Newark where he was playing with visiting Buffalo.

Trotsky

Quote from: billhowardThe power play was 0x7 and fans in my section got impatient but once set up it looked pretty good, except no scoring. We only took 2 penalties (BU scored on one); that's a positive, too. Hard to believe we outshot a team 3-1 and lost.
The powerplay was outstanding in movement and positioning.  You could hear the "shoot, shoot" morons on the audio and it took a minute to realize that fan IQ hadn't suddenly dropped 50%, it was just NHL types.

If the pp works for the rest of the year like last night we'll be golden.  It was pure puck luck that we didn't put 2, 3 or more in.

Very frustrating to lose this game, but we looked miles better than the ugly win against Niagara.  All things considered, winning > losing, but as an indicator going forward last night was very positive.

Trotsky

Quote from: BMacDon't worry about the celebrity thing- it's kind of how we don't "do" commercials about our school. Dryden was in the building. We just don't scream about it.
High school students have no idea who Ken Dryden is.  If the purpose is to recruit interest in the school in the NYC area, then we were lacking.

If the purpose was just to squeeze donor dollars out of the NYC crowd (spoiler: it was), then I'd rather we remain quiet and be thought a fool than use a slogan like "That's so BU!" and confirm it.

marty

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardThe power play was 0x7 and fans in my section got impatient but once set up it looked pretty good, except no scoring. We only took 2 penalties (BU scored on one); that's a positive, too. Hard to believe we outshot a team 3-1 and lost.
The powerplay was outstanding in movement and positioning.  You could hear the "shoot, shoot" morons on the audio and it took a minute to realize that fan IQ hadn't suddenly dropped 50%, it was just NHL types.

If the pp works for the rest of the year like last night we'll be golden.  It was pure puck luck that we didn't put 2, 3 or more in.

Very frustrating to lose this game, but we looked miles better than the ugly win against Niagara.  All things considered, winning > losing, but as an indicator going forward last night was very positive.

And miles ahead of a few weeks ago vs. RPI. One result was much better in that we came back without the extra attacker we needed in Troy.

Also the work ethic for the full game seemed there last night while watching on the somewhat motion sickness inducing video-cast.  For those at the game - did everyone on the team look energetic for the whole game?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

snert1288

I was at the game last night and thought that the team did have a lot of energy. Especially on defense we were really competing. The one exception being Joel Lowery. He looked slow and lazy through much of the game as I saw it. Often he was waiting for the puck to come to him only to allow a BU player to catch up and intercept it.

ebilmes

Agree that we generally out-played BU, with the help of dumb penalties and questionable officiating.

Good write-up by CHN

I wasn't one of the people yelling "shoot" throughout the powerplays, but we had some great chances for one-timers off of excellent passes that we wasted. Particularly when you're losing, I don't understand the hesitation with those looks at the net. Yes, Cornell ended up with a lot of shots on goal, but we fell into the classic Cornell situation of being afraid to pull the trigger on the PP and instead settle for shots from the point that went into the skates/pads of the BU player directly in front. It was easy to see why this BU team gave up 55 shots last Saturday to North Dakota, and maybe if we'd gotten the puck to the net a few more times, we could have gotten a third goal (like NoDak did).

Also, am I the only one confused as to why Iles stayed on the ice for the start of the final powerplay? With 6x4, would we really have been so concerned about BU gaining possession and skating it out for an ENG? It wasn't like Iles went directly to the bench once we had possession; he stayed on for :40 of that powerplay. If the linesman hadn't blown the icing call against BU that forced Iles back out for the faceoff, we could have had close to :60 with the extra skater.

The defensive breakdowns (falling down, no one covering the back door, breakout play making it 5 feet) are typical for this time of year; BU just did a great job of capitalizing on those opportunities. When will we finally beat BU?

And also, the two large 100-level BU sections were not even close to half full. How was this a sellout? Did that many people really decide to not attend?

Swampy

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: David HardingI was disappointed in the ratio of BU celebrities vs. Cornell celebrities who were introduced.
A Cornellian didn't score that goal at the 1980 Olympics, and we don't have any recent former coaches to show off. Their dean of students, Ken Elmore, is also the warm and fuzzy face of BU; when half the graduating class committed to a class gift in 2011, Elmore jumped in the Charles River with suitable advance notice to the media. Probably necessary because BU's president for three decades, John Silber, was widely regarded as an SOB (and as the person who took BU from safety school to a match for NYU and George Washington). Cornell's dean of students, Kent Hubbell, is more low key, as is Cornell's public face at a lot of sports events, Susan Murphy, VP of Student and Academic Services, who is more involved in quiet pursuits such as expanding Gannett Clinic. If Ken Dryden '70 was in the building, that would have been nice to have shown him on the jumbotron (and what a high-res image those screens provided). Maybe Matt Moulson could have done a shout-out from the Prudential Center in Newark where he was playing with visiting Buffalo.

Any chance of getting Murphy, or even better, Andy Noel to swim in the East River? ::twak::

MattShaf

The ice was very soft. Not sure if that was a result of the Rangers game in the afternoon prior to the CU v. BU game or just due to the fact that the Garden ice is 5 stories above ground and always sucks a little more than other NHL rinks that host a multitude of events.

We were in 210 row 11 and couldn't believe that the shot on the 5v3 didn't go in. We heard absolutely no ping from a post or crossbar. But given that Shafer didn't blow an aneurysm on the bench and that others on this forum have stated that the puck hit the post we will accept that outcome (but I'd sure like to see a replay of the shot).

As for those that say that this game has lost a little jazz I would agree. BU did not even come close to selling out there section of seats (regardless of the reported attendance). Additionally, the scalpers and ticket brokers have been trying to bend some fans over by buying up tickets and attempt to raise prices the last few years, which might be keeping the marginal fan away. FWIW, we were able to buy tickets last minute from StubHub at under face value.

Hoping we can show a little more finish the rest of the year and make some noise in the post season. THe talent is there to make a run.

LGR,
Matt Shafiroff

Jordan 04

Quote from: ebilmesAlso, am I the only one confused as to why Iles stayed on the ice for the start of the final powerplay? With 6x4, would we really have been so concerned about BU gaining possession and skating it out for an ENG? It wasn't like Iles went directly to the bench once we had possession; he stayed on for :40 of that powerplay. If the linesman hadn't blown the icing call against BU that forced Iles back out for the faceoff, we could have had close to :60 with the extra skater.

I thought it made sense. You're not concerned about them skating it out, but you are concerned about a team that can ice the puck with no repercussions. My interpretation was that with nearly 2 minutes left, Schafer figured he'd have a go at it for a shift or two with the man advantage, without risking an empty net. Then, at the more traditional 60-80 seconds remaining, he pulled Iles.

BMac

From Adam's writeup on CHN:

Quote from: Adam Wodon (on CHN)"For whatever reason, a lot of the passes that went to the seam, our guys refused to shoot one-timers and force it to the net," Schafer said. "It's almost like they were looking to be perfect and they just refused to (shoot). And when they start doing that, they hesitate too much. ... But their goaltender played well, we hit a couple crossbars, and some nights that happens."

Towerroad

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: David HardingI was disappointed in the ratio of BU celebrities vs. Cornell celebrities who were introduced.
A Cornellian didn't score that goal at the 1980 Olympics, and we don't have any recent former coaches to show off. Their dean of students, Ken Elmore, is also the warm and fuzzy face of BU; when half the graduating class committed to a class gift in 2011, Elmore jumped in the Charles River with suitable advance notice to the media. Probably necessary because BU's president for three decades, John Silber, was widely regarded as an SOB (and as the person who took BU from safety school to a match for NYU and George Washington). Cornell's dean of students, Kent Hubbell, is more low key, as is Cornell's public face at a lot of sports events, Susan Murphy, VP of Student and Academic Services, who is more involved in quiet pursuits such as expanding Gannett Clinic. If Ken Dryden '70 was in the building, that would have been nice to have shown him on the jumbotron (and what a high-res image those screens provided). Maybe Matt Moulson could have done a shout-out from the Prudential Center in Newark where he was playing with visiting Buffalo.

Any chance of getting Murphy, or even better, Andy Noel to swim in the East River? ::twak::

I will chip in for some weights.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: BMacFrom Adam's writeup on CHN:

Quote from: Adam Wodon (on CHN)"For whatever reason, a lot of the passes that went to the seam, our guys refused to shoot one-timers and force it to the net," Schafer said. "It's almost like they were looking to be perfect and they just refused to (shoot). And when they start doing that, they hesitate too much."

So what else is new.

Rosey

Quote from: BMacFrom Adam's writeup on CHN:

Quote from: Adam Wodon (on CHN)"For whatever reason, a lot of the passes that went to the seam, our guys refused to shoot one-timers and force it to the net," Schafer said. "It's almost like they were looking to be perfect and they just refused to (shoot). And when they start doing that, they hesitate too much. ... But their goaltender played well, we hit a couple crossbars, and some nights that happens."
Thank you for posting this: maybe some of the anti-"SHOOOOT!" criticism will die down now. (Not that I do that because I know they can't hear me anyway, but sometimes it's just clear the guys need to shoot more.)
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MattS

Quote from: billhowardNow there's a Kelly-Harkness Cup (named in that order based on the outcome of the 2013 game) which suggests there'll be an ongoing series. But are some fans getting a little weary of the series? There were more empty seats than ever before. Two sections behind the BU-defended goal (1st and 3rd) were less than half full and I hope those were BU sections. Even so, if there were 2,500 empty seats, that's still a good turnout.

I am. But that is because I hate traveling to, around, and from NYC.