YUCK...WE LOST

Started by LGR31, February 15, 2002, 09:30:02 PM

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LGR31

How can we lose to DARTMOUTH so many times? YUCK! ::yark::

JordanCS

DAMNIT!!!  Why the hell can't we beat these guys?  It's not like Nick Boucher is a superhuman goalie.  He had over 3 GAA coming into the game, yet he stands on his head against us.  We outplay them almost the whole game, and somehow, we lose.  Gotta hope we don't meet them in the playoffs.  On the other hand, I'm almost glad the Red lost one before the playoffs began.  If we had swept the remaining games, I'd be really nervous.  A 16 game win streak could have led to major overconfidence in the playoffs, which is the wrong time to have it.  Let's hope for a 5 game win streak to finish off the RS, and hope that we don't meet the Green in Placid.  Or if we do, that we finally exact revenge on them.

Well, in the Ivy race, we have 13 points, Dartmouth has 11.  If they lose to either Princeton or Yale next week, we still get half the Ivy title, and if they go L-T or L-L, we win outright.  

LGR....kick some Catamount butt tomorrow!

Greg Berge

Because Dartmouth has played very well against us, and when they haven't quite been at our level, Nick Boucher has been the difference.

It happens.  Don't unload the bandwagon quite yet.

Greg Berge

If it makes anybody feel better (and hey it might), with Herrington and Maturo gone after this year, and Byrne and Boucher after next year, Dartmouth isn't going anywhere but back down to the bottom.

jnachod

According to the Bradley Terry ratings (http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/2002/ecac.rrwp.shtml) we had an 81.3% chance of beating Dartmouth in any given game.  Furthermore, we were expected to have 1.7 scoring points against us for the rest of the regular season, and we got 2 tonight with the loss.  Unfortunately, tonight happened to be one of Dartmouth's lucky days.  Hopefully this will be it for the season.

Dart~Ben

If it makes you feel better you didn't really outplay Dartmouth as much as the shot totals would indicate, it's not that Cornell didn't play great but Dartmouth did as well. This was one the best college hockey game I've ever seen in person, both teams had their chances and couldn't convert until OT. Dartmouth had a few breakaways and odd-man rushes that your goalie stopped, while Cornell was pinching their D-men in and got more sustained pressure as well as having the better power play tonight (hence the higher shot total). Both teams hit a post, and both goalies had some absolute highway robbery saves (though Boucher probably had the best of the night). The reffing was consistent for most of the night, Dartmouth just got the break at the end when Cornell's shot couldn't trickle into the net before being swept away and brought it down and one icing later won it.

Comeon, we haven't even smelled the Ivy title in 20 years. Can't you let us have it once every 2 decades? ;-)

Good luck from here on out, at least til we meet again in Lake Placid. :-D

Ben Flickinger
Omaha, NE
Dartmouth College

Sarli

No we (most of us anyway) went to Cornell. They do not teach us to share there. They assume falsely that we learned to share and accept defeat elsewhere.  I have yet to learn.

The only good I see is that this loss may refocus our guys for the playoff run.  I would rather a loss today then in placid. I think anyone will trade a loss at this point for a championship banner

We're gonna beat the hell out of you...

RichS

Perhaps they'll have some good recruits to replace these guys...ya never know! ;-)

robb

Must you always look on the bright side?  Can't we dream about Dartmouth going back where they belong?  I would think that would be something that Clarkson and Cornell fans could agree on!  :-P

Jim Hyla

QuoteIf it makes you feel better you didn't really outplay Dartmouth as much as the shot totals would indicate
Yeah, it really would make us feel better to know we didn't play as well as we thought. We'd rather know we played worse and deserved to lose. God, do people really read their posts?

Anyway, it's nice to know that they have their sights set on the Ivy title, I'd rather shoot for the ECAC and beyond. I doubt the team looks at this loss as not winning the Ivy, but rather a lost opportunity on the road to the playoffs.

It reminds me of a saying attributed to Dryden, when I was in school. I don't know if it's true, but when asked why he didn't choose Princeton he said they were looking for the Ivy title and Ned was going for the NCAA. If anyone has better knowledge of it's truth please elaborate.

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jtwcornell91

Um, whatever.  We still get an Ivy banner if Dartmouth slips up next weekend and we share the title with Dartmouth and/or Harvard.  And of course the Ivies are nice, but the real prize is the Whitelaw Trophy, and no one has to share that.

The frustration at losing to Dartmouth is that they are the only ECAC team we didn't beat in the regular season this year.  And we don't much care for their coach or their goalie.


ugarte

Rough crowd here. He didn't even say anything obnoxious!

I don't actually hate Boucher.  I just want to beat him like he's a rookie at a Fight Club.  We better play them in LP to avenge this.


jy3

the way I heard it was...
1. dartmouth played well. they had pressure on underhill and he made some great saves.
2. boucher was unbelievable. grady said many times that boucher made "game saving" stops. he made more of these than underhill mainly because cornell had more of these opportunity.
3. both team hit posts, dartmouth more than cornell.
4. although cornell was hitting, dartmouth stayed in the game and did not wear down.
5. the place seemed full of cu people, as well as dc people...
6. i dont know about u, but i dont play for the team so to say "we" seems strange to me.
7. a great game to listen to. very entertaining.
8. this loss hurts the team but it is not as bad as a loss at placid. i am sure if anyone could have picked a loss against a TUC, this one would be it considering we were already losing the comparison anyway...and a loss in the playoffs would be worse (knock on wood)
9. dc has cornells number, plain and simple. if i was on the team, i would want revenge but i would rather wait til next year...let them lose in playoffs before cornell would face them...
10. cornell only fell 2 spots in the computer that counts.
11. let us cheer for brown and 'gate to get and to stay above .500. as well as bama. that will help tremendously...
12. LGR! shake it off and learn from it, boys!


LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

jkahn

During the '66-70 time period, I don't even remember the concept of Ivy title. The only standings anyone looked at were the ECAC (with BU, BC, Harvard and Clarkson the key competitors).  Of course, even with the ECAC standings, it was usually a case of looking at the standings to see how 2 through 8 were shaping up   When the NCAA's were held in the east. my freshman and senior years, I bought NCAA tickets very early.  There was this quiet confidence that we weren't going to be stopped.

Even in those four years, we still manged to have 2 of our five loses against Ivy teams.  Let's not get too down after the Dartmouth game, and let's hope that John LeClair's performance last night doesn't inspire the Catamounts too much tonight.

Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Graham \'02

Well the last time we lost to Dartmouth we didn't lose again for over a month.  Hopefully this loss will have the same effect .