2013-2014 Basketball

Started by nyc94, November 12, 2013, 05:23:17 PM

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mountainred

Quote from: Rita
Quote from: toddloseHow much you think it'll take?

I'm not sure, but IU alumni care about their basketball 100X times more than I think the Cornell alumni base. When I lived in the land of the Boilermakers (West Lafayette, 2004-2009), it was practically a state of emergency/diaster when the Indiana basketball teams did not make the NC$$s. I don't remember the exact numbers, but a substantial amount of money was pledged to help the athletic department with the financial implications of getting out of the contract.

100X is probably an underestimate.  IU alumni probably care 100X more about hoops than Cornell alumni (eLynah company excepted) care about hockey.  They are rather fanatical.

CAS

What do you think the revenues for men's basketball (ticket sales, fundraising, etc.) will be in 2014-5 if no changes are made?

phillysportsfan

Quote from: WederKeith Olbermann gave a shout-out to the Sweet 16 team last night.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtNRNlCymCQ&list=UUdJtV6wXT6lnrvldU_urowQ[/video]

http://vimeo.com/10371664

He told the same story on Countdown when we made the Sweet 16. Hard to believe that was only 4 years ago, Sweet 16 to 1 win

phillysportsfan

Quote from: CASWhat do you think the revenues for men's basketball (ticket sales, fundraising, etc.) will be in 2014-5 if no changes are made?

I would imagine revenues were low this year since we knew from the beginning Miller was out and Courtney couldnt coach.

Revenues probably cannot go much lower and we cannot possibly be worse next year, I would think by accident they can get more than 1 win.

phillysportsfan

Quote from: toddloseHow much you think it'll take?

Courtney makes somewhere between 200-350K

phillysportsfan

Harvard gave Mich St (a popular champion pick) a real battle, if Amaker sticks around a Sweet 16 appearance for them seems inevitable.

Andy, now that wrestling is over time to get rid of Courtney. The conference continues to get better with 5 schools in the postseason and Harvard just missing the Sweet 16 while we plummet to a historically bad year. If you dont find a way to fire Courtney now, it is painfully obvious you dont care at all about basketball

CAS

Interestingly Steve Donahue was fired with 2 years remaining on a contract that reportedly paid him over $1 million per year.   So BC ate in excess of $2 million in dismissing him.

George64

Quote from: phillysportsfanCourtney makes somewhere between 200-350K

What's wrong with this picture?  According to the 2013 AAUP faculty salary survey, Cornell paid on average $159.8k, $110.7k and $97.8k (9 month equivalents) for Full, Associate and Assistant Professors.  CU faculty salaries rank around the 90th percentile among doctoral institutions, but exceeded only Brown in the Ivy League.

phillysportsfan

It is an endowed position so I don't know how much Cornell actually pays him a year (if anything) vs what the donor pays that endowed the position.

Weder

Quote from: George64
Quote from: phillysportsfanCourtney makes somewhere between 200-350K

What's wrong with this picture?  According to the 2013 AAUP faculty salary survey, Cornell paid on average $159.8k, $110.7k and $97.8k (9 month equivalents) for Full, Associate and Assistant Professors.  CU faculty salaries rank around the 90th percentile among doctoral institutions, but exceeded only Brown in the Ivy League.

Adjusted for cost of living, I'd guess that Cornell is comparable to the other Ivies. I did one calculation, and the average salary for a full professor at Cornell comes out ahead of the salary for a full professor at Columbia who wants to live in Queens.

EDIT: Though I wonder if the average Cornell salaries include the medical school faculty, and if the data for those professors have a significant impact.
3/8/96

George64

Quote from: WederEDIT: Though I wonder if the average Cornell salaries include the medical school faculty, and if the data for those professors have a significant impact.
I recall reading that it's the Ithaca campus only, but I can't find the reference now.

David Harding

Quote from: George64
Quote from: WederEDIT: Though I wonder if the average Cornell salaries include the medical school faculty, and if the data for those professors have a significant impact.
I recall reading that it's the Ithaca campus only, but I can't find the reference now.
I remember reading a story years ago about how a Sun reporter looked up the top five highest paid Cornell employees, expecting to find out how much Dale Corson made, but was disappointed to find that the top five were all on the Med School faculty.

billhoward

Definitely have to adjust for cost of living. A decent house in Cambridge, NYC or Princeton would be at least $1 million. That kind of house in Princeton at least would carry $25K in property taxes.

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardDefinitely have to adjust for cost of living. A decent house in Cambridge, NYC or Princeton would be at least $1 million. That kind of house in Princeton at least would carry $25K in property taxes.

But against this you have to weigh that you're living in Cambridge, NYC, or about an hour from either NYC or Philly. YGWYPF.

George64

Quote from: David HardingI remember reading a story years ago about how a Sun reporter looked up the top five highest paid Cornell employees, expecting to find out how much Dale Corson made, but was disappointed to find that the top five were all on the Med School faculty.
Sill true, owing largely to practice revenues, according to 2011 IRS 990.  By comparison, at BC highest  compensated employees include Spaziani (football) $1.1m, Donahue $1.0m, and York $0.5m.  Jim Boeheim garnered $2.2m at Syracuse and Mike Krzyzewski scored $10.5m at Duke.  These amounts include base compensation, bonuses and incentives, deferred compensation, and nontaxable benefits.