Should He Stay or Should He Go

Started by Towerroad, March 27, 2013, 12:31:26 PM

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Jim Hyla

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Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...

What makes you think he can or is willing to try and recruit the different type of student we get at CU vs DU? That is always the problem that I see. I think it's far easier to go from non-scholarship school to scholarship factory, than the other way around.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

KeithK

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Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...
Why would Gwozdecky want to caoch at Cornell?  He has no connection to the school. He's never coached in a no-scholarship, high academic requirements environment. Why would you think he'd want to take on that challenge?

He's also 59 years old.  So he's not likely to be a guy who would stick around for a generation.

Not to mention that Denver has pretty much played a similar defense first style of hockey.  Why would you think Gwoz would be so much more successful at Cornell, given the constraints we have to work with?

Josh '99

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Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.

Absolutely stunning.  The program had been at best mediocre since Armstrong until Gwozdecky came aboard.  In his first year, they made the tourney after a nine-year absence; later on, they won two national championships; for the past few years, the team has been performing at the kind of level that most ADs would probably dream about, the NCAA disappointments notwithstanding.  Honestly, the only comparables would be Michigan firing Berenson, or Minnesota firing Lucia after keeping Wooger on for so many years.

Come to think of it, why did BU keep that Parker guy around for so long?  What an idiot he was.  Not enough Natties!
There is speculation (though maybe just by people grasping for an explanation) that a dispute over Gwozdecky's salary was involved.  Take secondhand speculation for what it's worth, though, of course.
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Jim Hyla

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Quote from: css228
Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...
Why would Gwozdecky want to caoch at Cornell?  He has no connection to the school. He's never coached in a no-scholarship, high academic requirements environment. Why would you think he'd want to take on that challenge?

He's also 59 years old.  So he's not likely to be a guy who would stick around for a generation.

Not to mention that Denver has pretty much played a similar defense first style of hockey.  Why would you think Gwoz would be so much more successful at Cornell, given the constraints we have to work with?

I beat you, I beat you....:-DYou did elaborate however.:-}
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

css228

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Quote from: css228
Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...

What makes you think he can or is willing to try and recruit the different type of student we get at CU vs DU? That is always the problem that I see. I think it's far easier to go from non-scholarship school to scholarship factory, than the other way around.
Willing to try that's easy. He's unemployed and he's said he wants to continue to coach. Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.

Josh '99

Tangent:  I find it unnecessarily confusing that there's both a George Gwozdecky and a Guy Gadowsky.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

snert1288

Of course you would.  But, Douglas was drafted in the 8th round of the NHL draft and Matt was taken in the 2nd round.  Also, we have no way of knowing if Matt Carle could even have met the academic standards at Cornell.  Gwozdecky doesn't get to just turn Cornell into Denver, as several other people have said.

Rosey

Quote from: css228Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.
I might go with Matt Moulson now. I never would have thought that in 2006. And despite eyebrow power, it pains me to say this because he's on the freakin' *Islanders*.

Sigh. At least he doesn't play for the Devils.
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css228

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Quote from: css228Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.
I might go with Matt Moulson now. I never would have thought that in 2006. And despite eyebrow power, it pains me to say this because he's on the freakin' *Islanders*.

Sigh. At least he doesn't play for the Devils.
Still would take a legitimate top pair defenseman over Matt Moulson, who's just lucky he plays on a line with Taveres.

Josh '99

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Quote from: css228Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.
I might go with Matt Moulson now. I never would have thought that in 2006. And despite eyebrow power, it pains me to say this because he's on the freakin' *Islanders*.

Sigh. At least he doesn't play for the Devils.
Still would take a legitimate top pair defenseman over Matt Moulson, who's just lucky he plays on a line with Taveres.
I love Murray, but I think calling him a top pair defenseman is maybe a bit generous.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Chris '03

Quote from: css228
Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...

For my money, UConn might be the best fit. They don't have a coach, he gets a year to get his ducks in a row, then rolls on to HEA with low expectations. They will throw money at him to make a splash in HEA and don't have academic constraints like Harvard or to a lesser extent RPI. And Connecticut is the new hub of college hockey apparently.
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Jordan 04

Quote from: Josh '99Tangent:  I find it unnecessarily confusing that there's both a George Gwozdecky and a Guy Gadowsky.

This!

css228

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Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: css228Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.
I might go with Matt Moulson now. I never would have thought that in 2006. And despite eyebrow power, it pains me to say this because he's on the freakin' *Islanders*.

Sigh. At least he doesn't play for the Devils.
Still would take a legitimate top pair defenseman over Matt Moulson, who's just lucky he plays on a line with Taveres.
I love Murray, but I think calling him a top pair defenseman is maybe a bit generous.
Talking about Carle, not Murray.

Josh '99

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Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: css228Two who's the best player Schafer has produced? Murray? Easiy take Matt Carle over that.
I might go with Matt Moulson now. I never would have thought that in 2006. And despite eyebrow power, it pains me to say this because he's on the freakin' *Islanders*.

Sigh. At least he doesn't play for the Devils.
Still would take a legitimate top pair defenseman over Matt Moulson, who's just lucky he plays on a line with Taveres.
I love Murray, but I think calling him a top pair defenseman is maybe a bit generous.
Talking about Carle, not Murray.
Oops, misunderstood.  Sorry about that.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

RichH

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: css228
Quote from: cbuckserBringing this back on topic (but at risk of breaking the united front), as I watch George Gwozdecky's press conference, I am further convinced of the inanity of firing Mike Schafer. Unrealistic expectations yield atrocious decisions.
I'm actually on the Fire Schafer, hire Gwozdecky bandwagon. I wouldn't fire Schafer without a coach I thought of as an an improvement, but lo and behold...

For my money, UConn might be the best fit. They don't have a coach, he gets a year to get his ducks in a row, then rolls on to HEA with low expectations. They will throw money at him to make a splash in HEA and don't have academic constraints like Harvard or to a lesser extent RPI. And Connecticut is the new hub of college hockey apparently.

I'd be sorry if I didn't post this granade that cause a flurry of activity today:

https://twitter.com/CHN_AdamWodon/status/319139662935490560