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Chris '03 · January 23, 2013, 01:03:19 PM

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: RichHI know he was down on the ice after the hit that Burgdoerfer got the 5+game on, but he seemed to get up fairly quickly and skate off under his own power. He returned to the game in the 2nd, and was on the ice for Lowry's goal in the last minute in the 3rd.
Forgive me for just catching up, but... there's ANOTHER Burgdoerfer who's ALSO a cheap-shot artist? :-(

First of all, they are brothers. Erik, a defenseman, graduated in 2010 and ammassed over 250 PIM over his career (including 108 in 2008-09). Greg, a forward, transferred from Air Force (having to sit out his brother's senior year). The two penalties he received on Saturday (the major + game misconduct) were only his 2nd and 3rd penalties all year. He receieved three minor penalties last season in 12 games. Not the goon his brother was.

I'll leave it up to our RPI friends to add anything to the playing styles of either.

At the risk of substantial thread drift, what are the rules when you transfer out of an academy? Do you have to make restitution for the years you were there? I presume you are released from military commitment? I also presume the school you go to can't make that payment?

ursusminor · January 23, 2013, 01:51:38 PM

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: RichHI know he was down on the ice after the hit that Burgdoerfer got the 5+game on, but he seemed to get up fairly quickly and skate off under his own power. He returned to the game in the 2nd, and was on the ice for Lowry's goal in the last minute in the 3rd.
Forgive me for just catching up, but... there's ANOTHER Burgdoerfer who's ALSO a cheap-shot artist? :-(

First of all, they are brothers. Erik, a defenseman, graduated in 2010 and ammassed over 250 PIM over his career (including 108 in 2008-09). Greg, a forward, transferred from Air Force (having to sit out his brother's senior year). The two penalties he received on Saturday (the major + game misconduct) were only his 2nd and 3rd penalties all year. He receieved three minor penalties last season in 12 games. Not the goon his brother was.

I'll leave it up to our RPI friends to add anything to the playing styles of either.

Actually they are twin brothers. To me they look identical, but they may not be. Erik was a better hockey player. I don't regard either of them as a cheap-shot artist. Sorry.

By the way, I am dreading the trouble that RPI recruit Jimmy DeVito, who recently served a suspension for his sixth major penalty of the season, will get into. See for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMKe03cPe98&feature=player_embedded

(DeVito gave up 3 inches and 22 pounds on that one http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/GameEvents.aspx?Game=407037&Fight=375553#Fight375553.)

I recall that players who transfer out of a service academy have no obligation unless they have stayed for more than two years, but I could be wrong.

Jerseygirl · January 23, 2013, 02:43:46 PM

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: RichHI know he was down on the ice after the hit that Burgdoerfer got the 5+game on, but he seemed to get up fairly quickly and skate off under his own power. He returned to the game in the 2nd, and was on the ice for Lowry's goal in the last minute in the 3rd.
Forgive me for just catching up, but... there's ANOTHER Burgdoerfer who's ALSO a cheap-shot artist? :-(

First of all, they are brothers. Erik, a defenseman, graduated in 2010 and ammassed over 250 PIM over his career (including 108 in 2008-09). Greg, a forward, transferred from Air Force (having to sit out his brother's senior year). The two penalties he received on Saturday (the major + game misconduct) were only his 2nd and 3rd penalties all year. He receieved three minor penalties last season in 12 games. Not the goon his brother was.

I'll leave it up to our RPI friends to add anything to the playing styles of either.
Actually they are twin brothers. To me they look identical, but they may not be. Erik was a better hockey player. I don't regard either of them as a cheap-shot artist. Sorry.

By the way, I am dreading the trouble that RPI recruit Jimmy DeVito, who recently served a suspension for his sixth major penalty of the season, will get into. See for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMKe03cPe98&feature=player_embedded

(DeVito gave up 3 inches and 22 pounds on that one http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/GameEvents.aspx?Game=407037&Fight=375553#Fight375553.)

I recall that players who transfer out of a service academy have no obligation unless they have stayed for more than two years, but I could be wrong.

So what you're saying is that there's still a yet-to-emerge third Burgdoerfer brother who is equally goonish yet childlike?

ursusminor · January 23, 2013, 03:01:24 PM

Quote from: JerseygirlSo what you're saying is that there's still a yet-to-emerge third Burgdoerfer brother who is equally goonish yet childlike?

Actually, there is a third brother who is a goalie. In December 2007, I met Erik and Greg's father when RPI was playing in a tourney in Tampa. Somehow the conversation turned to why his wife wasn't there. It turned out that she was in Canada with the youngest child who was playing in tourney there. I wondered, but didn't ask, how he got the trip south in December while his wife went north.

I haven't found anything on line about the third Burgdoerfer, but I don't know his given name.

Trotsky · January 23, 2013, 03:19:34 PM

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: JerseygirlSo what you're saying is that there's still a yet-to-emerge third Burgdoerfer brother who is equally goonish yet childlike?
Actually, there is a third brother who is a goalie. In December 2007, I met Erik and Greg's father when RPI was playing in a tourney in Tampa. Somehow the conversation turned to why his wife wasn't there. It turned out that she was in Canada with the youngest child who was playing in tourney there. I wondered, but didn't ask, how he got the trip south in December while his wife went north.

I haven't found anything on line about the third Burgdoerfer, but I don't know his given name.

Well, how goonish yet childlike could a goalie ever be...?

marty · January 23, 2013, 04:12:55 PM

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: RichHI know he was down on the ice after the hit that Burgdoerfer got the 5+game on, but he seemed to get up fairly quickly and skate off under his own power. He returned to the game in the 2nd, and was on the ice for Lowry's goal in the last minute in the 3rd.
Forgive me for just catching up, but... there's ANOTHER Burgdoerfer who's ALSO a cheap-shot artist? :-(

First of all, they are brothers. Erik, a defenseman, graduated in 2010 and ammassed over 250 PIM over his career (including 108 in 2008-09). Greg, a forward, transferred from Air Force (having to sit out his brother's senior year). The two penalties he received on Saturday (the major + game misconduct) were only his 2nd and 3rd penalties all year. He receieved three minor penalties last season in 12 games. Not the goon his brother was.

I'll leave it up to our RPI friends to add anything to the playing styles of either.
Actually they are twin brothers. To me they look identical, but they may not be. Erik was a better hockey player. I don't regard either of them as a cheap-shot artist. Sorry.

By the way, I am dreading the trouble that RPI recruit Jimmy DeVito, who recently served a suspension for his sixth major penalty of the season, will get into. See for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMKe03cPe98&feature=player_embedded

(DeVito gave up 3 inches and 22 pounds on that one http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/GameEvents.aspx?Game=407037&Fight=375553#Fight375553.)

I recall that players who transfer out of a service academy have no obligation unless they have stayed for more than two years, but I could be wrong.

Looks like a Fridgen recruit.

Trotsky · January 23, 2013, 06:47:22 PM

Quote from: martyLooks like a Fridgen recruit.

"Robert Gaudet? White courtesy telephone, please."

BMac · January 23, 2013, 09:25:35 PM

All I can think of is our tribute to Erik Burgdorfer in 2009, when some buddies and I went to both Burger Kings in Ithaca and got stacks of the king crowns, then passed them out in sections a/b before the game.

BUUUURGER KIIIING, BUUUURGER KIIIING

snert1288 · January 23, 2013, 09:50:14 PM

If I remember correctly one of the Cornell players had 2 goals in that game and I had visions of all those crowns flying onto the ice!

Trotsky · January 24, 2013, 06:47:58 AM

Quote from: snert1288If I remember correctly one of the Cornell players had 2 goals in that game and I had visions of all those crowns flying onto the ice!

You remember correctly.

ursusminor · January 24, 2013, 07:21:50 AM

Tweet from Seth Appert. http://twitter.com/SethAppert/status/294186948141133825

Trotsky · January 24, 2013, 09:47:15 AM

Quote from: ursusminorTweet from Seth Appert. http://twitter.com/SethAppert/status/294186948141133825

That was nice of him.

munchkin · January 24, 2013, 10:10:53 PM

In regards to restitution to an Academy - if you leave before you take your Oath which is the beginning of Sophomore year. So you can only be there for one year without owing them anything. I got an appointment to Annapolis before deciding that I wanted a typical college experience, and came to Cornell, rather than such a structured one. And hey I still managed to become an officer in the end (Navy Nurse Corps).

Jerseygirl · January 24, 2013, 11:35:13 PM

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: RichHI know he was down on the ice after the hit that Burgdoerfer got the 5+game on, but he seemed to get up fairly quickly and skate off under his own power. He returned to the game in the 2nd, and was on the ice for Lowry's goal in the last minute in the 3rd.
Forgive me for just catching up, but... there's ANOTHER Burgdoerfer who's ALSO a cheap-shot artist? :-(

First of all, they are brothers. Erik, a defenseman, graduated in 2010 and ammassed over 250 PIM over his career (including 108 in 2008-09). Greg, a forward, transferred from Air Force (having to sit out his brother's senior year). The two penalties he received on Saturday (the major + game misconduct) were only his 2nd and 3rd penalties all year. He receieved three minor penalties last season in 12 games. Not the goon his brother was.

I'll leave it up to our RPI friends to add anything to the playing styles of either.
Actually they are twin brothers. To me they look identical, but they may not be. Erik was a better hockey player. I don't regard either of them as a cheap-shot artist. Sorry.

By the way, I am dreading the trouble that RPI recruit Jimmy DeVito, who recently served a suspension for his sixth major penalty of the season, will get into. See for example

(DeVito gave up 3 inches and 22 pounds on that one http://www.dropyourgloves.com/Fights/GameEvents.aspx?Game=407037&Fight=375553#Fight375553.)

I recall that players who transfer out of a service academy have no obligation unless they have stayed for more than two years, but I could be wrong.

You could be wrong, but you're not.

Trotsky · January 25, 2013, 08:03:35 AM

Quote from: munchkinIn regards to restitution to an Academy - if you leave before you take your Oath which is the beginning of Sophomore year. So you can only be there for one year without owing them anything. I got an appointment to Annapolis before deciding that I wanted a typical college experience, and came to Cornell, rather than such a structured one. And hey I still managed to become an officer in the end (Navy Nurse Corps).

Hence the phrase "one and run," which IIRC used to be "two and screw."