Generic Off Season Thread

[Jim Hyla]

According to USCHO, the Div. III championships in 2014 will be in Philly on Friday of the Div I championships. And to get another dig in:-D, here's what they say about LP:

It would be a big change for the D-III tournament, which, until 2008, had been almost exclusively played on campus sites. Lake Placid, N.Y., was the site of the semifinals and finals in four of the last five seasons and is scheduled to host again in 2013.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2012/08/20/mens-division-iii-title-game-planned-to-coincide-with-philadelphia-frozen-four-in-2014/#ixzz24BCe1txC

[Josh '99]

According to USCHO, the Div. III championships in 2014 will be in Philly on Friday of the Div I championships. And to get another dig in:-D, here's what they say about LP:

It would be a big change for the D-III tournament, which, until 2008, had been almost exclusively played on campus sites. Lake Placid, N.Y., was the site of the semifinals and finals in four of the last five seasons and is scheduled to host again in 2013.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2012/08/20/mens-division-iii-title-game-planned-to-coincide-with-philadelphia-frozen-four-in-2014/#ixzz24BCe1txC

Love it!  I don't know that I'll actually GO to the DIII title game, but it'll be great to have the option.

[bnr24]

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

Thoughts?

[jtn27]

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

Thoughts?

It's actually a pretty nice mural. And good for them. They made the Frozen Four. They have the right to (and should) commemerate it in as many ways as possible.

[RichH]

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

Thoughts?

It's actually a pretty nice mural. And good for them. They made the Frozen Four. They have the right to (and should) commemerate it in as many ways as possible.

Yeah. Why would this raise anybody's hackles? It's one thing when their uh...fans(?) act like entitled pricks, but that's the hockey locker room.  Their players accomplished a lot of things that their program can (and should) be proud of, finally. Why not commemorate them?

[bnr24]

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

Thoughts?

It's actually a pretty nice mural. And good for them. They made the Frozen Four. They have the right to (and should) commemerate it in as many ways as possible.

Yeah. Why would this raise anybody's hackles? It's one thing when their uh...fans(?) act like entitled pricks, but that's the hockey locker room.  Their players accomplished a lot of things that their program can (and should) be proud of, finally. Why not commemorate them?

I don't know, my issue with them had to do with the fact that they made a big to-do about not celebrating athletics in the locker room.  I don't want to take away from their accomplishments (seriously, props to the Frozen Four), but I respected them more for their stance before.  Idk, guess it is easy to say before you win anything significant.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/238399201929728000

Thoughts?

It's actually a pretty nice mural. And good for them. They made the Frozen Four. They have the right to (and should) commemerate it in as many ways as possible.

Yeah. Why would this raise anybody's hackles? It's one thing when their uh...fans(?) act like entitled pricks, but that's the hockey locker room.  Their players accomplished a lot of things that their program can (and should) be proud of, finally. Why not commemorate them?

I will even concede that with a more recent Frozen Four appearance, Union finally has something about which they can have an attitude toward Cornell. It is a real accomplishment of theirs. However, I do think there is an element of hypocrisy about the mural and comments that Bennett has made several times, including those made during the Jell-O Mold awarding ceremony in Schenectady last season, in the past.

The one reason that it might be appropriate to be critical of their choice is because of Bennett's incessancy about how while he is coach, Union College will never put anything celebrating anything other than academic achievements in the locker room. He pointed to how players post typically which players make the dean's list on the walls of the locker room. He followed these comments up on several occasions with not-so-veiled allusions to the well-known tradition of Schafer that has players polish trophies and place trophies in the locker rooms as being practices Bennett critiqued as emphasizing the wrong side of the sport and something that programs that deprioritize academics do.

The first time I heard the comment, I took it as a slight to Cornell. Then, when I thought about it, I decided that if Union stayed loyal to that tradition it would be one of which I was jealous. Certainly, it would remain a hallmark and a point of pride for a self-proclaimed proud liberal arts school. However, Bennett has proven to be a mere hypocrite on this issue when his program and he could have shown great character with choosing that they would continue on as they had before, when they had nothing to display or commemorate in their locker room. Perhaps I am too sensitive to hypocrisy, but hypocritical arrogance strikes me as something mock-worthy.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

https://twitter.com/BThomasIthaca/status/239001135439024128

https://twitter.com/CornellWAFT/status/239006325391110144

I wonder if Willcox knows already the history of his chosen number. He has much to live up to now, I guess.

[Weder]

Matt Underhill is among the folks going into the CU Athletic Hall of Fame this year.

[Roy 82]

Matt Underhill is among the folks going into the CU Athletic Hall of Fame this year.

Good for him.

Taking a look at the other inductees - If I were more of a cynic I would say somehting like "I had no idea that philanthropy was an intercollegiate sport". :-D

[marty]

Accessible?  I guess, though not as much so as Albany; however, this to some extent disregards the fact that the ECAC is no longer, and in all likelihood never will again be, a Boston-centered league.  Providence is at one end of the league's geographic footprint as much so as Lake Placid is, and for the schools with sizable student/townie fan bases, Lake Placid is comparably convenient (Capital District schools) or much more so (Cornell, North Country schools).  

As for attractiveness, one thing the Lake Placid region certainly has going for it is natural beauty out the wazoo (albeit, in fairness, much of it snow-covered even into March), if that's a major concern.  

Well, there are trains--with frequent service--and interstate highways that go right into downtown Providence from all major northeast cities, where many alumni live (How many Clarkson alums live in Potsdam?)  Albany is also much more accessible than LP, but, in my opinion (sorry, Tim) is not as attractive a city as Providence.  As far as attractiveness goes, what else is there to do in LP other than a bogus bobsled ride?  A ski jump?  [I'll go if Adam promises to jump for us.]

I would be very happy to have seen the ECACs return to Albany, but if the brilliant ADs who chose Atlantic City over Albany felt a continuing need for an alternative to Albany, Providence would be a much more desirable location than LP.

OK, so clearly you don't like the wintry options in Lake Placid; what is there to do in Providence?  I've never felt much of a desire to do anything after a game at Meehan except skip town, but maybe I'm missing out.

I have no idea whatsoever what you like or dislike to do, and you probably aren't going to find much in the way of culture in Providence AFTER a 7pm game at Brown.  For one thing, that afternoon you might try the Rhode Island School of Design Art Museum (#1 in this article:  

http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/travel/36-hours-in-providence-ri.html )

TimV and I can vouch for the gustatory quality of #6, by the way.::cheer::

A big part of the question concerns March weather. LP is clearly better for outdoor winter sports. If it's a cold March, Lake Placid has a real advantage, at least for outdoor types. If March is mild, and that seems to be the trend (Al Gore smiley), Providence wins. Either way, Providence is likely to put on a WaterFire for the ECAC's, and there's lots to do in nearby Newport.

And if it is cold and icy then the mortician may win.  My biggest problem with LP is the drive from I-87 to the town.  I don't really enjoy it in the summer in daylight.  Since I will be driving home after the games the weather may coax me into a ditch.

If the weather is terrible, I'll be hoping that RPI TV or Time Warner will be broadcasting the games.::worry::

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Could someone more learned in NCAA rules explain what constitutes a coach-led practice and what constitutes a captain-led voluntary practice? Union and Quinnipiac both play games on the first day that the NCAA allows coach-led practices and then Appert tweeted this to make the distinction more convoluted in my mind.

https://twitter.com/SethAppert/status/240251475396292610

[Robb]

Could someone more learned in NCAA rules explain what constitutes a coach-led practice and what constitutes a captain-led voluntary practice? Union and Quinnipiac both play games on the first day that the NCAA allows coach-led practices and then Appert tweeted this to make the distinction more convoluted in my mind.

Coaches are allowed to "attend" captain's practices for safety and observation purposes, but they are not allowed to "lead" the practices.  Good luck splitting those hairs in your NCAA violation review....

[KeithK]

Could someone more learned in NCAA rules explain what constitutes a coach-led practice and what constitutes a captain-led voluntary practice? Union and Quinnipiac both play games on the first day that the NCAA allows coach-led practices and then Appert tweeted this to make the distinction more convoluted in my mind.

Coaches are allowed to "attend" captain's practices for safety and observation purposes, but they are not allowed to "lead" the practices.  Good luck splitting those hairs in your NCAA violation review....

And everypne knows that captain's practices are "voluntary".  As in, you can voluntarily choose to be kicked off the team.

[Trotsky]

Do the Ivies, ECAC and NCAA each have different dates on which captain and coach practices are permitted?  (i.e., 6 different dates)