Generic Off Season Thread

[Josh '99]

Dustin should come talk to the team when he's visiting family. Hopefully the advice will be better than "Shooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!"

I suspect it will be.

Utley's was better.

Meh.  I prefer the spontaneous to the premeditated.  But I'm biased, too.

[Josh '99]

I'm sure you'll see Buckner allusions from Devils fans who want a scapegoat and something to make the series memorable.

I know a lot of Devils fans, and you're the only one who's making Bill Buckner comparisons.  Maybe that's because neither the game situations (extra innings vs. first period) nor the historic scenarios (70-year drought vs. 3 titles in the last 20 years) were in any way comparable.

[css228]

Dustin should come talk to the team when he's visiting family. Hopefully the advice will be better than "Shooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!"

I suspect it will be.

Utley's was better.

Meh.  I prefer the spontaneous to the premeditated.  But I'm biased, too.

If Dustin Brown had the equivalent of a Jayson Werth (as much as I dislike him, probably Jeff Carter) sitting behind him and jumping up fists in the air when he said it I'd agree. Either way I love it when athletes curse on live TV out of pure exuberance.

[Jordan 04]

So will Dustin be bringing the Cup to Ithaca this summer?

[Jacob '06]

So will Dustin be bringing the Cup to Ithaca this summer?

He said he would on Leno last night.

[Josh '99]

Dustin should come talk to the team when he's visiting family. Hopefully the advice will be better than "Shooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!"

I suspect it will be.

Utley's was better.

Meh.  I prefer the spontaneous to the premeditated.  But I'm biased, too.

If Dustin Brown had the equivalent of a Jayson Werth (as much as I dislike him, probably Jeff Carter) sitting behind him and jumping up fists in the air when he said it I'd agree. Either way I love it when athletes curse on live TV out of pure exuberance.

I agree, but then I'm also a firm believer in the George Carlin line of thinking that "bad words" are a silly concept.

[billhoward]

I'm sure you'll see Buckner allusions from Devils fans who want a scapegoat and something to make the series memorable.

I know a lot of Devils fans, and you're the only one who's making Bill Buckner comparisons.  Maybe that's because neither the game situations (extra innings vs. first period) nor the historic scenarios (70-year drought vs. 3 titles in the last 20 years) were in any way comparable.

It was also a different sport, it happened on the road, etcetera. The common thread was that it was a monumental error and it was a turning point of the game and the outcome of the championship. Google, the lazy person's way to prove a point, shows 23,000 hits on "steve bernier bill buckner," so maybe it's not an isolated thought. Here's one Devils fan http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2012/06/politi_steve_bernier_will_fore.html:

Wherever he goes, the replay will follow him [Bernier] the way Bill Buckner has forever watched that baseball bounce under his glove. He was charging down the ice 10 minutes into the game, sizing up Kings defenseman Rob Scuderi for a hit along the boards.

[Tom Lento]

(Granted, those who actually remember what happened in game 6 in 1986 also know that Bill Buckner making that play merely would've ended the inning with the score tied, not ended the game with a Red Sox win - and that before Kevin Mitchell tied the score on Bob Stanley's wild pitch, there were about a dozen separate pitches on which the Sox could have won the World Series outright - so Buckner's not the best guy to blame either, he was just the most visible and obvious scapegoat.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-GgbP9C9Zk

[CowbellGuy]

Google, the lazy person's way to prove a point, shows 23,000 hits on "steve bernier bill buckner," so maybe it's not an isolated thought.

Accounting for your authoring 22,000 of them, it's still pretty negligible.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

This came across my twitter-feed earlier. Minnesota, like most B1G schools, invests a lot of time in media surrounding its programs. So, they've been counting down the top-ten goals of the last season. This led me to two ideas.

Why does not Cornell do something similar? It does not involve much time. The video edits and collection would take no more than half an hour. That is assuming the worst case scenario. I think it would be interesting to produce a series of these with Arthur Mintz. He narrated the Cornell-Providence Hockey 1979 Quarterfinal video, so it seems not outside the realm of possibilities.

The second idea was which goals would we include on such a list for the 2011-12 season for Cornell hockey. My rough idea of which goals I would put in the top ten are:

10. Gotovets's goal against Yale at Ingalls
9.  D'Agostino's goals against Sucks at Bright
8.  Miller's goal against Union at Lynah
7.  McCarron's goal against Colgate in the ECAC Consolation Game
6.  Jillson's goal against BU at Red Hot Hockey
5.  Mowrey's goal against Ferris State in NCAA Regional Final
4.  Craig's goal against Union at Lynah
3.  Whitney's OT-winning goal against Dartmouth in ECAC Quarterfinal Game 1
2.  McCarron's goal against Michigan in NCAA Regional Semifinal
1.  Craig's OT-winning goal against Michigan in NCAA Regional Semifinal

[Beeeej]

Why does not Cornell do something similar? It does not involve much time. The video edits and collection would take no more than half an hour. That is assuming the worst case scenario. I think it would be interesting to produce a series of these with Arthur Mintz. He narrated the Cornell-Providence Hockey 1979 Quarterfinal video, so it seems not outside the realm of possibilities.

It doesn't involve much of your time.  I suspect Minnesota has a slightly larger Sports Information staff than Cornell does.

[Josh '99]

(Granted, those who actually remember what happened in game 6 in 1986 also know that Bill Buckner making that play merely would've ended the inning with the score tied, not ended the game with a Red Sox win - and that before Kevin Mitchell tied the score on Bob Stanley's wild pitch, there were about a dozen separate pitches on which the Sox could have won the World Series outright - so Buckner's not the best guy to blame either, he was just the most visible and obvious scapegoat.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-GgbP9C9Zk

Age, can you bring back the +1?

[billhoward]

Why does not Cornell do something similar? It does not involve much time. The video edits and collection would take no more than half an hour. That is assuming the worst case scenario. I think it would be interesting to produce a series of these with Arthur Mintz. He narrated the Cornell-Providence Hockey 1979 Quarterfinal video, so it seems not outside the realm of possibilities.

It doesn't involve much of your time.  I suspect Minnesota has a slightly larger Sports Information staff than Cornell does.

Cornell U probably has better video editing skills than us duffers here. But if someone here did it, the intro would not be the Big Red Bear-head rotating, bobbing and weaving for 30 seconds.

We could do an April 1 video showing 10 Cornell breakaways as the player crosses the blue line, the view from the camera obscured by heads, the sound of the crowd erupting, and the Big Red Bear returning with "Goal!" overlaid.

[Trotsky]

(Granted, those who actually remember what happened in game 6 in 1986 also know that Bill Buckner making that play merely would've ended the inning with the score tied, not ended the game with a Red Sox win - and that before Kevin Mitchell tied the score on Bob Stanley's wild pitch, there were about a dozen separate pitches on which the Sox could have won the World Series outright - so Buckner's not the best guy to blame either, he was just the most visible and obvious scapegoat.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-GgbP9C9Zk

Broad cultural ramifications:


[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=g0AzDpXLn_E[/video]

[billhoward]

http://www.hockeyjournal.com/news/colleges/hockey_east/2011-12/UMass_coach_Cahoon_steps_down

After 12 seasons behind the bench, Don "Toot" Cahoon (Lynn, Mass.) is stepping down from his position as head coach of the UMass men's hockey team. ... "Through the course of our recent conversations, coach Cahoon and I mutually agreed that it would be in the program's best interest for him to take this action at this time," [athletic director JOhn] McCutcheon said. During his dozen seasons in Amherst, Cahoon compiled a 166-225-42 record. His 166 wins are the most in program history. Cahoon's best season came back in 2006-07, when the Minutemen were led by this year's Conn Smythe winner and Stanley Cup champion with the L.A. Kings, Jonathan Quick (Hamden, Conn.), and finished with a 21-13-5 record. The sophomore netminder helped UMass reach the second round in their first-ever trip to the NCAA tournament.

13-18-5 last year