Generic Off Season Thread

[CowbellGuy]

I've certainly given serious thought to doing a new version. After I did that one, I vowed never to do it again because it was north of 60 hours of work to stitch the images together and clean up the edges, not to mention all the test prints. However, the tools (and my gear) have gotten a lot better so it would be far less painful. I'd like to also choose a less auspicious game . So if you feel like waiting, I'll make an effort to do a new one next season.

[Jim Hyla]

I've certainly given serious thought to doing a new version. After I did that one, I vowed never to do it again because it was north of 60 hours of work to stitch the images together and clean up the edges, not to mention all the test prints. However, the tools (and my gear) have gotten a lot better so it would be far less painful. I'd like to also choose a less auspicious game . So if you feel like waiting, I'll make an effort to do a new one next season.

Thanks for everything, Age.

[Jim Hyla]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

[billhoward]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

[Aaron M. Griffin]

I've certainly given serious thought to doing a new version. After I did that one, I vowed never to do it again because it was north of 60 hours of work to stitch the images together and clean up the edges, not to mention all the test prints. However, the tools (and my gear) have gotten a lot better so it would be far less painful. I'd like to also choose a less auspicious game . So if you feel like waiting, I'll make an effort to do a new one next season.

:)Thanks! I have no problem with waiting. I was thinking long-term for something that I can keep and display proudly at my place. Any game you have in mind?

[Aaron M. Griffin]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

My favorites include:

The committee will consider allowing goals that were scored as the defensive team dislodges the net. When Michigan State played Union in the NCAA regional tournament, an apparent Spartans goal was reviewed and disallowed when the officials determined the net, as the puck entered, was slightly raised off its pegs by a Union defender.

and

Another change would be to the criteria used for instant replay, particularly when it comes to the play being offside immediately as the goal is scored. Last season, Union scored an empty-net goal from center ice in the NCAA Northeast Regional final against Massachusetts-Lowell while a Dutchmen attacker was still in the attacking zone.

Despite clear evidence on video that the play was offside, current replay criteria does not allow the official to review whether a play is onside when the goal is scored.

It looks like Union's Frozen Four would have never been had it occurred but a year later.

[Rita]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

[redice]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

Whatever it takes, short of shootouts, cut down on the ties.   The 5 min OT is just a bad idea.   The two teams seem to spend 5 minutes trying not to lose.  Bullshit.   They should finding a way to win.   That's the nature of sports!!

[KeithK]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

Whatever it takes, short of shootouts, cut down on the ties.   The 5 min OT is just a bad idea.   The two teams seem to spend 5 minutes trying not to lose.  Bullshit.   They should finding a way to win.   That's the nature of sports!!

It's all about incentives. If there is incentive to sit back and be careful that's what rational teams will do.

I'm with Rita though. I have no problem with ties. What I have a problem with is artificial rules intended to force a tiebreak.  The reason shootouts are bad (IMNSHO) is that it turns a hockey game into a skills contest.  4 on 4 overtime is less bad but it turns the game into what amounts to a special teams contest.

If ties are such an issue I'd be in favor of going to 10 minute overtimes. An extra five minutes of ice time isn't going to kill anyone and then at least you're not changing the way the game is played on the ice, just playing longer.

If shootouts and 4x4 OT are good ideas ask yourself why the NHL doesn't use them in the playoffs.

[Al DeFlorio]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

I'm with you, Rita.  Even more so in lacrosse, where the ridiculous sudden-death resolution is simply dumb.  In a sport where 20 scores is the norm and half the shots on goal go in, it's absurd to decide it on the first OT goal.  Play eight or ten minutes, and most goals wins.

[ugarte]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

I'm with you, Rita.  Even more so in lacrosse, where the ridiculous sudden-death resolution is simply dumb.  In a sport where 20 scores is the norm and half the shots on goal go in, it's absurd to decide it on the first OT goal.  Play eight or ten minutes, and most goals wins.

I love sudden death OT in lax. I see where you are coming from - and I'd think sudden death in basketball would be stupid for the same reason - but I can't get my mind to apply it to lacrosse.

[Robb]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

I'm with you, Rita.  Even more so in lacrosse, where the ridiculous sudden-death resolution is simply dumb.  In a sport where 20 scores is the norm and half the shots on goal go in, it's absurd to decide it on the first OT goal.  Play eight or ten minutes, and most goals wins.

I love sudden death OT in lax. I see where you are coming from - and I'd think sudden death in basketball would be stupid for the same reason - but I can't get my mind to apply it to lacrosse.

Try thinking about it this way: since half of shots go in, and teams generate numerous shots per turnover, sudden death reduces OT lacrosse to a skills competition between face-off specialists.  Bleah.

[Al DeFlorio]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

I'm with you, Rita.  Even more so in lacrosse, where the ridiculous sudden-death resolution is simply dumb.  In a sport where 20 scores is the norm and half the shots on goal go in, it's absurd to decide it on the first OT goal.  Play eight or ten minutes, and most goals wins.

I love sudden death OT in lax. I see where you are coming from - and I'd think sudden death in basketball would be stupid for the same reason - but I can't get my mind to apply it to lacrosse.

For many years college lacrosse OT consisted of two four-minute periods, with a change of goal in between.  Cornell won the 1976 championship game by scoring the last four OT goals after Maryland scored the first.  Some of us who grew up watching lacrosse played with that very sensible OT procedure "can't get our minds" around the current crap shoot.

[Ronald '09]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

I agree.  If both teams have the same amount of goals after 65 minutes, neither team deserves to win.  Nor lose.

[Ben]

Latest from USCHO on possible rules changes.

The NCAA wants fewer tie games but doesn't want to go to 4x4 in OT or have shootouts. So the only thing left is 10- or 20-minute OTs ... and more wear on players. If Cornell is a defense-minded team, then playing 4x4 in OT would seem like playing on an Olympic sheet and not be to our style.

What is wrong with a hard fought tie in a regular season game? I'm okay with the current 5 minute (5 v 5) sudden death OT period. I'm probably one of the few people (dinosaurs?) that don't mind ties. What is so awful about ties anyway?

Totally agree. There's an odd obsession with manufacturing results in North American (yup, I went there) sports. Teams can be evenly matched. I'd like to see the end of sudden death overtime as well, because it can reduce games to random bounces of the puck or ball.