Cornell-Ferris State In Progress

Started by Johnny 5, March 24, 2012, 09:55:03 PM

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snert1288

I'm curious whether we get D'Agostino back for next year.  I know it's way to early to be thinking about, but I think he is a real asset to this team.

BearLover

Quote from: snert1288I'm curious whether we get D'Agostino back for next year.  I know it's way to early to be thinking about, but I think he is a real asset to this team.
I'd guess he'll be back.  He's in line to be captain and he hasn't been incredible (ready for the NHL) by any means...he had a pretty slow end to this season.

scoop85

Just saw the game on DVR. Certainly disappointed in the result, as we had the opportunity in front of us. Coming up empty on the 5-minute major was obviously a downer, followed immediately by the Ferris winning goal.  Nonetheless we had a few decent chances to tie, especially Espo right in the slot.

Credit to Ferris for suffocating defense and great positional play.  Not nearly as much star power as Michigan, but a real "team" approach.  I think Union will take them in Tampa, however.  It's a shame we won't have a third go at it with the Dutchmen.

Germ

Tough loss. Amazing how quickly momentum can shift in a hockey game. After coming back with the tying goal rather quickly I thought we had all the momentum at that point.  Add to that a 5-min major and  I figured this game was ours for the taking (assuming we'd score). Guess not.  Seems like almost every hockey game I watch a goal is scored a 2-on-1 breakaway seconds after a guy comes out of the box.

Cornell does so well in the first round of the NCAAs (forget 2010) but can't seem to get over the hump in the quarters.  I think we're 1-5 in our last 6 appearances in the quarters or something like that.  After beating Michigan it seemed like we had a great opportunity to make a run to the finals having to face only Ferris State and Union (rather than a NoDak, Minny, BC, etc) to get there.  But having said that, if somebody were to have asked me at the beginning of the season would I be happy if we just got to the quarters I would have said "hell yes".

Hopefully we can make it back to the tourney next year.

snert1288

I agree that this season ended a bit slow for him.  And he may have actually been better last year.  Just with his size and good puck handling I always got the feeling that the AHL (not quite NHL ready) might pull him away.

MattShaf

Tough ending. Had the feeling that we were just a little tight. Looking for the perfect play instead of just going with the play. PP was really tough to watch. I'm usually the last one to be screaming shoot the puck but what would Doug Murray have done! He would have unloaded the bomb!

From the beginning, not really sure what we were getting most of the year. Feeling was, good to hang with the best but not quite there. Here's to hopin next year Coach Schafer is willing to let these guys attack a little more and we can take a big step forward.

jkahn

Just couldn't get much open ice tonight.  Get to credit Ferris St. for good performances against both Denver and us.  Let's not forget that they were the regular seaon CCHA champs - we lost to a really good team.
Thank you seniors.
And for the underclassmen, we're all looking forward to next year.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Dutchman

Great Season Cornell. We were hoping two ECAC teams would make it to Tampa. ECAC 3-1 so far in the tournament. Not bad. Hope to improve on that on April 5.

ugarte

This was the opposite of last night. I feel like the better team is going home because they couldn't cash in on the multiple powerplay opportunities that were handed to them. I agree with Greenberg that the cycle was embarrassing. It looked like we were trying to run out the clock. I also lost count of the number of times we passed it out of the offensive zone ourselves with minimal Ferris pressure.

On the other hand, Ferris commits completely to filling the lanes. They don't really pressure the points as much as you'd expect, choosing instead to become extra goaltenders. They made it really hard to find a lane but that's hardly an excuse for five minutes of soccer on ice when you're up a man.

The win over Michigan made this season, so I can't be too disappointed about this loss. Though I am disappointed - Union would have been our ideal semifinal matchup even if I suspect that we are the AAA side of the bracket. The QF on the other half is insane: BC, Minnesota, Duluth and North Dakota. Jeebus.

Roy 82

Quote from: DutchmanGreat Season Cornell. We were hoping two ECAC teams would make it to Tampa. ECAC 3-1 so far in the tournament. Not bad. Hope to improve on that on April 5.

Thanks, Good luck in the FF and way to represent the ECAC.

ansky629

Thanks...didn't realize Bardreau got a penalty on the play as well.  That explains it.  I'm not a hockey neophyte, but I thought I missed a rule somewhere in my hockey education.

Johnny 5

Quote from: flyersgolfI love Andy Iles, but both goals he was flopping. I also think fitness is an issue at the end of games against good skating teams and seems to get worse at the end of the season.  Next year expectations are higher!  If we get an effective PP watch out.  Nice season, but missed opportunity.  Poor Ferlin must have been dying watching.  Many very good hockey players returning next year.  Now the question is will Pannell return for Cornell's next NCAA run?

Yes, I still feel that, given their youth this was a very successful season.
Preseason I never expected a NCAA appearance. And, I think their overall play will do nothing but help recruiting.

Regarding Pannell....I know this is a hockey forum. But, if anyone has a head's up regarding his foot status, or if he's eligible to red-shirt next year I'd love to know. We have a great lax team, but I really miss watching one of the best ever play the game.

GO RED!!

::cheer::
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: flyersgolfI love Andy Iles, but both goals he was flopping. I also think fitness is an issue at the end of games against good skating teams and seems to get worse at the end of the season.  Next year expectations are higher!  If we get an effective PP watch out.  Nice season, but missed opportunity.  Poor Ferlin must have been dying watching.  Many very good hockey players returning next year.  Now the question is will Pannell return for Cornell's next NCAA run?

Yes, I still feel that, given their youth this was a very successful season.
Preseason I never expected a NCAA appearance. And, I think their overall play will do nothing but help recruiting.

Regarding Pannell....I know this is a hockey forum. But, if anyone has a head's up regarding his foot status, or if he's eligible to red-shirt next year I'd love to know. We have a great lax team, but I really miss watching one of the best ever play the game.

GO RED!!

::cheer::

Pannell was at the game yesterday at Penn.  He had a boot on his lower leg and was riding on a scooter.  Clearly he was trying to not put weight on his foot yet.  I'm not an orthopaedist, but unfortunately, that makes me wonder whether he'll be able to rehab it and get back for the rest of the season.

Johnny 5

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: flyersgolfI love Andy Iles, but both goals he was flopping. I also think fitness is an issue at the end of games against good skating teams and seems to get worse at the end of the season.  Next year expectations are higher!  If we get an effective PP watch out.  Nice season, but missed opportunity.  Poor Ferlin must have been dying watching.  Many very good hockey players returning next year.  Now the question is will Pannell return for Cornell's next NCAA run?

Yes, I still feel that, given their youth this was a very successful season.
Preseason I never expected a NCAA appearance. And, I think their overall play will do nothing but help recruiting.

Regarding Pannell....I know this is a hockey forum. But, if anyone has a head's up regarding his foot status, or if he's eligible to red-shirt next year I'd love to know. We have a great lax team, but I really miss watching one of the best ever play the game.

GO RED!!

::cheer::

Pannell was at the game yesterday at Penn.  He had a boot on his lower leg and was riding on a scooter.  Clearly he was trying to not put weight on his foot yet.  I'm not an orthopaedist, but unfortunately, that makes me wonder whether he'll be able to rehab it and get back for the rest of the season.

I was afraid of that. Same as the VA game.
Oh, well......
Thanks!

::worry::
Cure for cancer? Soon. Cure for stupid? Never. ~ Prof. B. Honeydew

TimV

I certainly agree with the optimism for next year, and the feeling that we got a lot more this year Than we had a right to expect.

That said, after 46 years of living and dying with Cornell Hockey, there are two major chronic problems that frustrate me no end.

First is the power play.  I'd have to yield to Trotsky or Beeeej or any others that have actual facts to refer to, but have we had any kind of power play success in the last 10-15 years?  Especially with the recent rules changes for major penalties for contact to the head or boarding from behind, there are going to be more and more opportunities and we really must become a threat.  The puck doesn't move fast enough, and our players are for the most part too static to cause a problem for teams that just want to pack it in.  Can we get some imagination to perhaps overload to one side to open up a backdoor play?  God knows we have enough film on it from Harvard and Union games.

The second problem is our shooting.  A large part of our shot differential problems is inaccuracy- we don't put the puck on net, even when we do shoot from in close.  Part of the problem is we often don't have anybody in front of the net.  When we do, he's too close to the net so the rebounds either get by too quickly or are out of reach.  I'd really like to see a slot player a little above the hashes who can move down closer to the crease if he needs to, but is still in a better position to get a rebound up over a sprawling goaltender.  Shooting accuracy while skating could be improved too.  Maybe using the skating treadmill with a goal set up at different angles or on a turntable?

None of these adjustments would sacrifice our tough defensive style, but it would sure help in those games where we get behind if we could be more of a scoring threat.
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