Cornell 4 St. Lawrence 3 (ot)

Started by Trotsky, February 18, 2012, 09:20:39 PM

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ajh258

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Quote from: Jim HylaKen Schott writes about Union's quandry after Union goalie Grosenick reinjured his ankle this weekend.
Thanks for posting this link.  I feel brain dead after realizing that getting to some of Ken Schott's writing is as easy as clicking on the blogs area of the Gazette.  I had been clicking on "Sports" and since I don't have a subscription, was blocked out of the content there.  Too bad the Troy Record doesn't hide Weaver's homerism from the masses.
Schott says, "I believe Union coach Rick Bennett is going to have an interesting decision to make over the next few days. He will have to weigh what is more important — winning the Cleary Cup or having a healthy Troy Grosenick for the ECAC Hockey tournament." If the ankle is injured, not just a boo-boo that a bandaid will fix, you get your team healthy for the playoffs and rest the goalie.

Union prioritizes winning the Jell-O Mold way too much. It defines the success of its program by competing for and winning it. I don't get it. I don't need a history lesson in response to that claim, I realize how general success is new to them, but winning the regular season doesn't advance one's season beyond where it was going inevitably, especially once a team has a bye. I am going to lose respect for Bennett if he puts winning an arguably meaningless trophy over the welfare of a player. It doesn't seem like the hard decision that Schott presents.
Schott concludes exactly the same thing:
QuoteWinning the Cleary Cup would be nice. But having a healthy Grosenick ready for the ECACH tournament may be more important. If Grosenick's not 100 percent this coming week, give him the time off and play Stevens.

It appears as though Bennett is going to play Grosenick against Cornell on Friday night.

Quote from: Rick BennettNo, no we're not. We're going to push him as best we possibly can, and hopefully he's ready to go. We don't have time to be cautious. If Troy can go, he's going to play. I think it's a lot better than people made it out to be.

I am not sure what I think of that. It is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
I don't think it makes a huge difference to us. We scored 4 goals last time and we could do it again, even if they have a better goalie. It really depends on how our players perform and respond to pressure more than anything else.

css228

Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: marty
Quote from: Jim HylaKen Schott writes about Union's quandry after Union goalie Grosenick reinjured his ankle this weekend.
Thanks for posting this link.  I feel brain dead after realizing that getting to some of Ken Schott's writing is as easy as clicking on the blogs area of the Gazette.  I had been clicking on "Sports" and since I don't have a subscription, was blocked out of the content there.  Too bad the Troy Record doesn't hide Weaver's homerism from the masses.
Schott says, "I believe Union coach Rick Bennett is going to have an interesting decision to make over the next few days. He will have to weigh what is more important — winning the Cleary Cup or having a healthy Troy Grosenick for the ECAC Hockey tournament." If the ankle is injured, not just a boo-boo that a bandaid will fix, you get your team healthy for the playoffs and rest the goalie.

Union prioritizes winning the Jell-O Mold way too much. It defines the success of its program by competing for and winning it. I don't get it. I don't need a history lesson in response to that claim, I realize how general success is new to them, but winning the regular season doesn't advance one's season beyond where it was going inevitably, especially once a team has a bye. I am going to lose respect for Bennett if he puts winning an arguably meaningless trophy over the welfare of a player. It doesn't seem like the hard decision that Schott presents.
Schott concludes exactly the same thing:
QuoteWinning the Cleary Cup would be nice. But having a healthy Grosenick ready for the ECACH tournament may be more important. If Grosenick's not 100 percent this coming week, give him the time off and play Stevens.

It appears as though Bennett is going to play Grosenick against Cornell on Friday night.

Quote from: Rick BennettNo, no we're not. We're going to push him as best we possibly can, and hopefully he's ready to go. We don't have time to be cautious. If Troy can go, he's going to play. I think it's a lot better than people made it out to be.

I am not sure what I think of that. It is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
I don't think it makes a huge difference to us. We scored 4 goals last time and we could do it again, even if they have a better goalie. It really depends on how our players perform and respond to pressure more than anything else.
Personally I hope they put a goalie thats not 100% out there. Grosenick's good but not so good that an injured Grosenick is necessarily their best option.

jtn27

Quote from: css228Personally I hope they put a goalie thats not 100% out there. Grosenick's good but not so good that an injured Grosenick is necessarily their best option.

Backup sieve, injured sieve, either way it favors us.
Class of 2013

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinIt is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
If you haven't looked at it, check out the Union grad's comment and Brian Sullivan's response. "an awful lot of time on your hands", indeed.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

snert1288

I believe last time we played Union we faced their back-up.  So, putting in 4 goals, while still nice is not as impressive.

css228

Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI am not sure what I think of that. It is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
I take issue with the use of hated to describe Colgate from the perspective of a Cornell fan.

Aaron M. Griffin

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Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinIt is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
If you haven't looked at it, check out the Union grad's comment and Brian Sullivan's response. "an awful lot of time on your hands", indeed.

Thanks. That provided certainly a lot of entertainment.

I enjoyed how Scott misspelled Keith Kinkaid's name. That's a dedicated fan. I know how to spell his name from when Cornell blanked Union in the 2010 ECAC Championship Final.

Quote from: Scott MuirheadUnion's...presence among the nation's top program.

I think Scott needs a little perspective. One NCAA appearance does not a "nation's top program" make. I think for a program to be a top program in the nation that it needs to have brand recognition and have storied and continued success. Two impressive seasons does not meet those criteria.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinIt is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
If you haven't looked at it, check out the Union grad's comment and Brian Sullivan's response. "an awful lot of time on your hands", indeed.
I dunno; If I were a blogger on a tiny niche sports site, I probably wouldn't slag the only reader who actually took the time to respond to my article, though.

I'm sure Brian is a fine and wonderful person, but he might stand reminding that "reporter for USCHO" is right up there with Second-runner-up for Miss Tacoma in the grand scheme of things.  ;)

Brian Sullivan

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinIt is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
If you haven't looked at it, check out the Union grad's comment and Brian Sullivan's response. "an awful lot of time on your hands", indeed.
I dunno; If I were a blogger on a tiny niche sports site, I probably wouldn't slag the only reader who actually took the time to respond to my article, though.

I'm sure Brian is a fine and wonderful person, but he might stand reminding that "reporter for USCHO" is right up there with Second-runner-up for Miss Tacoma in the grand scheme of things.  ;)
Oh, I don't need any reminding... the paycheck serves plenty notice that I'm not exactly working for the Washington Post here. Not to say it's not an enjoyable gig, but it's not the glamorous full-time jet-setting role that many fans seem to believe it to be. USCHO simply doesn't have the resources to be anyone's full-time job.

As far as "slagging" Mr. Scott there, I simply pointed out that he laid into USCHO for things we don't even do... "Teams of the Week" is a CHN feature, for example (I think). He wasn't wrong with most of what he said about Union, but I got the impression that the comment was a copy-paste job of something he originally intended for CHN, or something like that.

PS: I'm not a "reporter for USCHO"... I'm a correspondent, dammit. ;)

Trotsky

Quote from: Brian SullivanOh, I don't need any reminding... the paycheck serves plenty notice that I'm not exactly working for the Washington Post here.
The sad thing about journalism is, you may actually be drawing the same pay as a WaPo reporter now.  :(  ;)

Brian Sullivan

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Brian SullivanOh, I don't need any reminding... the paycheck serves plenty notice that I'm not exactly working for the Washington Post here.
The sad thing about journalism is, you may actually be drawing the same pay as a WaPo reporter now.  :(  ;)
...and that's why I'm currently enrolled in a masters program: to get the full-time job that will allow me to happily continue the part-time job (specifically for which I attended my undergraduate program).

::doh::

marty

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Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI am not sure what I think of that. It is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
I take issue with the use of hated to describe Colgate from the perspective of a Cornell fan.

How about four out of five Cornell fans prefer Crest ?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

css228

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Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI am not sure what I think of that. It is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
I take issue with the use of hated to describe Colgate from the perspective of a Cornell fan.

How about four out of five Cornell fans prefer Crest ?
Does the fifth prefers aquafresh?

Aaron M. Griffin

Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinIt is from the most recent ECAC article from USCHO.
If you haven't looked at it, check out the Union grad's comment and Brian Sullivan's response. "an awful lot of time on your hands", indeed.

Thanks. That provided certainly a lot of entertainment.

I enjoyed how Scott misspelled Keith Kinkaid's name. That's a dedicated fan. I know how to spell his name from when Cornell blanked Union in the 2010 ECAC Championship Final.

Quote from: Scott MuirheadUnion's...presence among the nation's top program.

I think Scott needs a little perspective. One NCAA appearance does not a "nation's top program" make. I think for a program to be a top program in the nation that it needs to have brand recognition and have storied and continued success. Two impressive seasons does not meet those criteria.

Scott made reference to a Union College hockey game in 1975 or 1976 in which Union College defeated a highly ranked team from UNH. I got curious and started researching to see if it did occur. It did. The team was playing in Division III at that time and led by Ned Harkness unsurprisingly but Union managed an upset against UNH. It was in 1976. I stumbled upon a Sports Illustrated article that highlights the victory and Harkness' establishment of a winning college hockey program at Union.

Quote from: Pat PutnamUnable to get Clarkson at Achilles Arena, Union had to settle for the University of New Hampshire last Friday night. UNH had displaced Clarkson as No. 1 in the East and No. 2 in the nation, and had lost only two Division I games all year as it faced off against Harkness' squad. A standing-room-only crowd of 3,400 braved a blizzard and subzero temperatures to see the game, and it was never close. In one of the most-shocking upsets since RPI's win in the 1954 NCAA championship, Union stunned UNH 8-4 as Forward Don Marshall scored three goals.
Class of 2010

2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009   Ithaca      6-3
02/19/2010   Cambridge   3-0
03/12/2010   Ithaca      5-1
03/13/2010   Ithaca      3-0

Jim Hyla

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005