Cornell 4 Yale 2

Started by Trotsky, February 11, 2012, 11:13:33 AM

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Jim Hyla

Quote from: TrotskyIn other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?:-(
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

jtn27

I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.
Class of 2013

David Harding

Quote from: billhowardToo many late-game fights this weekend. Maybe a scouting report says Cornell can be goaded?
Wouldn't you try to do that earlier in the game rather than later?

css228

Quote from: jtn27I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.
One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: css228
Quote from: jtn27I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.
One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.
The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

TimV

Quote from: Greg MWe won.

Ivy Champs!


Last night they were awarded a giant plaque for the Ivy League Championship, and Greg reminded me that Yale had it the for last three years. Thus they clearly had to have brought it with them.  Must have been funny for their team to see it being loaded onto the bus when they left New Haven.  Harkness would have left it home and UPSd it later.  Oh, wait- Harkness would'nt lose it.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

ajh258

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: jtn27I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.
One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.
The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
There are situations where you want to play conservative and stop trying to score more goals — last night was one of those situations. The team was able to practice D and kill off about 15 minutes of time before the first Yale goal was scored. This experience was more valuable for developing the team than trying to score more. If we played like we did in the first period, our defense would also be more exposed and would give Yale a better chance at a come back. However, there are concerns about momentum when all you're doing is trying to preserve a lead, which the team very well knows at this point.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Jim HylaI also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
Right.  Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game.  Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games.  You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.
Al DeFlorio '65

marty

Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: jtn27I know we won and I don't want to be a downer, but I'm a little worried about the fact that last night was the 8th time in 9 games that we scored 0 third period goals.
One of those was 6 on 3. If you don't get scored on in that situation its a miracle.
The concern was that we are not scoring, not that we're scored upon. I agree, it's suspect. I also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
There are situations where you want to play conservative and stop trying to score more goals — last night was one of those situations. The team was able to practice D and kill off about 15 minutes of time before the first Yale goal was scored. This experience was more valuable for developing the team than trying to score more. If we played like we did in the first period, our defense would also be more exposed and would give Yale a better chance at a come back. However, there are concerns about momentum when all you're doing is trying to preserve a lead, which the team very well knows at this point.

I agree that we might have been practicing the lock down defense that Cornell has been so adept at in prior years.  Last night it seemed like Schafer was calling off the dogs bears.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

css228

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Jim HylaI also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
Right.  Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game.  Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games.  You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.
Absolutely, but its more than a little questionable that every scrum that occurred this weekend resulted in us killing a penalty, even if we didn't instigate it. You'd think some of those would end up being offset entirely. Regardless, we need to just take the high road late in games.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: css228
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Jim HylaI also don't know what to make of the "fights" at the end of games, or some of the dumb penalties we take earlier in the game. With a less than stellar PK, we need to be smart.
Right.  Two offensive zone penalties last niight could have let Yale back into the game.  Just can't continue doing that against tough teams in important games.  You wind up having to beat the odds as well as the tough teams.
Absolutely, but its more than a little questionable that every scrum that occurred this weekend resulted in us killing a penalty, even if we didn't instigate it. You'd think some of those would end up being offset entirely. Regardless, we need to just take the high road late in games.
I'm concerned less about the late-game scrums (dumb as it is to be suckered into them) and more about individual penalties taken in the offensive zone, of which we've taken more than our fair share throughout the season.
Al DeFlorio '65

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyIn other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?:-(
Sorry.  The new version has it.  Also data labels.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyIn other good news, the win clinches at least a top 8 finish by Cornell, so we will have more Lynah hockey.

Current conference members' RS by "thirds" since the 1985 reconfig.

So why isn't the first third colored RED?:-(
Sorry.  The new version has it.  Also data labels.

How hard would it be to add "blank" (maybe white) wedges for Union and Quinnipiac to represent the years they were not in the league, so that a wedge of X degrees represents the same number of seasons for each team?  (For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing pie charts Vermont and Army added in the same way.)

Rosey

Quote from: jtwcornell91How hard would it be to add "blank" (maybe white) wedges for Union and Quinnipiac to represent the years they were not in the league, so that a wedge of X degrees represents the same number of seasons for each team?  (For that matter, I wouldn't mind seeing pie charts Vermont and Army added in the same way.)
I think this change would miss the point of the chart. If you want to compare numbers, compare numbers: the point of the chart is to visualize a team's proportion of top 1/3:middle 1/3:bottom 1/3 finishes.
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anyone hear if the dude who got clocked and bled all over suffered more than just stiches in his head?