Red Cast Really Sucks

flyersgolf · January 20, 2012, 08:18:59 PM

Tonight (Darthmouth) is really really really really bad. Michigan vs. Notre Dame is very clear in High Def on NBC sports. When is Cornell and the ECAC going to wake up and get quality TV & streaming exposure. NBC is going to be broadcasting most of Notre Dame's ice hockey games as part of the deal to do continue to do Notre Dame football. That and Notre Dame moving to Hockey East made the deal to NBC a no brainer. Think that will help recruiting? I do not understand why there is not high def streaming available for PS3, ipad2...etc. Cornell is an elite school with computer and communications departs. Let the students produce and engineer the games in the best technology available.

Tonight the Red Cast it has worked best opening one window for video and another for radio, because the audio for the video is out of sync on the video channel. Yet the radio channel is in sync with the video, go figure.

Roy 82 · January 20, 2012, 08:38:19 PM

But where else do you get to here the announcer humming and whistling the alma mater followed by a nice long yawn?

flyersgolf · January 21, 2012, 07:08:53 PM

Tongiht (Harvard) we have no picture. They had all day to get ready for the broadcast.

MattShaf · January 21, 2012, 07:13:00 PM

Bemidji State vs Minnesota Women's Hockey on BTN in HD works nicely. Redcast doesn't work at all. What an f-in joke.

Chris '03 · January 21, 2012, 07:16:03 PM

::flipd::

What? There's more demand for the Harvard game? What? At least radio works....

flyersgolf · January 21, 2012, 07:18:57 PM

They say they are having technical difficulties. After last nights disaster you would think by game time everything would work witout a hitch.

kaelistus · January 21, 2012, 08:31:47 PM

So do you guys get your money back when this happens?

kaelistus · January 21, 2012, 08:32:26 PM

So do you guys get your money back when this happens?

Edit: Apparently eLynah thinks the above message is SPAM. That's weird.

MotherPucker · January 21, 2012, 09:37:55 PM

Quote from: kaelistusSo do you guys get your money back when this happens?

Edit: Apparently eLynah thinks the above message is SPAM. That's weird.

This is their response to the complaint they have pathetic service... I think I will wait til the last game of the year and then ask for a full refund for poor service

We apologize for the inconvenience. We are currently experiencing technical difficulties and we are working with the school to resolve the issue. If you would like us to cancel and refund your subscription, please let us know.

SIDEARM Streaming Support

scoop85 · January 21, 2012, 09:53:52 PM

Now I don't feel as frustrated that my wife made dinner plans tonight

marty · January 22, 2012, 08:18:48 AM

Quote from: scoop85Now I don't feel as frustrated that my wife made dinner plans tonight

Due to retinal surgery (Friday) I am under orders not to move my head from the pillow. My wife was kind enough to stay in the rom with me and log me in over and over when the service froze. She is a dear (even worse for her are trips to Houston in Troy when she's not in the mood).

If anyone deserves payment here in our house it is she.=]

billhoward · January 23, 2012, 12:23:46 AM

Everything posted here is accurate. Most of us (I said most, not all) are going to huff and puff, but we won't cancel our Redcast subscriptions or withdraw our commitment to endow the Day Hall replacement. We're a captive audience, we don't have alternatives, we're hosed.

It must be painful for players' parents in B.C. trying to watch the games. Or potential recruits?

Jordan 04 · January 23, 2012, 09:13:18 AM

Quote from: billhowardEverything posted here is accurate. Most of us (I said most, not all) are going to huff and puff, but we won't cancel our Redcast subscriptions or withdraw our commitment to endow the Day Hall replacement. We're a captive audience, we don't have alternatives, we're hosed.

It must be painful for players' parents in B.C. trying to watch the games. Or potential recruits?

I have absolutely cut back my spending on Redcast due to the quality issues.

My Day Hall endowment? Still under consideration.

Trotsky · January 23, 2012, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: billhowardEverything posted here is accurate. Most of us (I said most, not all) are going to huff and puff, but we won't cancel our Redcast subscriptions or withdraw our commitment to endow the Day Hall replacement. We're a captive audience, we don't have alternatives, we're hosed.

It must be painful for players' parents in B.C. trying to watch the games. Or potential recruits?

I think they assume it's not cost-effective to put any quality into the product. They have a handful (a couple hundred? fewer? far fewer?) of addicts who would install a tickertape in our house if that was the only way to get updates, but they don't see any market to expand into.

Is this shortsighted of them? Maybe so. Let's say they had the highest quality product: HD, dependable, the ability to deliver both at and away from Lynah. Taking into account the entire Cornell fan diaspora plus all the Ithacans who might watch road games, what is the absolute upper limit on their subscribers? 10,000 maybe?

That's probably not enough to break even. The question is, would a quality product grow the market, pull in more subscribers, and start to turn Cornell hockey into something regionally significant like, say, Syracuse basketball. A few WCHA, CCHA, and HE schools do seem to have that sort of following. We and RPI and probably the only schools who might be able to do it from the ECAC.

upprdeck · January 23, 2012, 10:54:05 AM

there are costs to doing a good job with the Red cast..

1) equipment
2) network
3) people.

#3 is pretty much set no matter what they do with #1 or #2.
#2 is probably the most unknown. cornell has the bandwidth to get the games out to the server company, after that its a variable cost
#1 camera equipment is cheap. its a one time expense that should last for multiple seasons.

we cant even get decent replay equipment and by my count we have lost close to half a dozen games because of replay in the last few years.

the bigger issue is that they try to broadcast multiple sports and are spread too thin to do any of them well.

the reality is CU loses money doing the broadcasts as it is, would we be willing to pay more to make it better, when it probably should be cheaper to get more people to watch?

they need to go one solid Donor to fund it and could be done right.

SU bball has many of the same issues , they are using the TV feeds and still struggle with sound and quality picture.