Alumni in the pros: November 2011

[Jim Hyla]

In other former goalie news, Garman having a rough intro to the ECHL.

http://echl.com/echl-transactions-nov-1-p173849

A 93 minute pro career.  Getting Waived by an Extremely Crappy Hockey League team is a really bad sign for your future.  

Bet he's wishing he would have stayed on the hill for that extra year.

OTOH, he has a college degree and he isn't giving Cornell $40k (or whatever) this year so he probably comes out ahead.

He probably got a signing bonus too.  I've always thought guys who leave early either are (or th9ink they are) ready for their next challenge and as such might not be the best mix with kids still developing their skills.  My only real data point was Nieuwendyk's junior year in 1987, where he skated circles (o0ften, literally) around the rest of the team, usually with no way of harmonizing him with them.  When they go, it's probably always time to go.

On the other hand, if you look at those who have left after 4 years, and compare them to early leavers (Is that a word?), you'll notice we have a lot of 4 year players in the NHL.

[scoop85]

I have litte issue with Garman leaving "early" since he got his degree. I just wish him the best in re-starting his pro career.

[KeithK]

I have litte issue with Garman leaving "early" since he got his degree. I just wish him the best in re-starting his pro career.

Agreed.  Yes, it's "early" in the NCAA eligibility sense.  But he did finish school, which  is the real goalpost for student athletes.  Ok, only in theory.  Stop your laughing.

[MotherPucker]

I have litte issue with Garman leaving "early" since he got his degree. I just wish him the best in re-starting his pro career.

Agreed.  Yes, it's "early" in the NCAA eligibility sense.  But he did finish school, which  is the real goalpost for student athletes.  Ok, only in theory.  Stop your laughing.

I have no problem with Garman walking away with his piece of paper early... More power to him for that.  I do find it Humorous that he thought the grass was greener on the other side after only 18 game starts at the D1 level.  Not all that seasoned for a 24 year old trying to jump to a pro level.  He had the chance to return and share the glory but let his ego get the better of him. And as for the mention of the "Signing Bonus" pointed out above...  This was the ECHL...  where your signing bonus might consist of a few thousand $ but definitely nothing lucrative.  And making 400$ per week in the ECHL is peanuts compared to the chance to play one more season in front of the Faithful.

Scrivens is the example for young players to follow...  use your 4 years to better yourself and grow  the rewards will be far more beneficial in the long run.

[Trotsky]

I do find it Humorous that he thought the grass was greener on the other side after only 18 game starts at the D1 level.  Not all that seasoned for a 24 year old trying to jump to a pro level.  He had the chance to return and share the glory but let his ego get the better of him. And as for the mention of the "Signing Bonus" pointed out above...  This was the ECHL...  where your signing bonus might consist of a few thousand $ but definitely nothing lucrative.  And making 400$ per week in the ECHL is peanuts compared to the chance to play one more season in front of the Faithful.

Scrivens is the example for young players to follow...  use your 4 years to better yourself and grow  the rewards will be far more beneficial in the long run.

To be fair to him, I can readily see an athlete trying to challenge himself by moving up to the highest level of competition he can get to, and even admire it (despite it getting in the way of our plans for Cornell World Domination).

[BearLover]

I have litte issue with Garman leaving "early" since he got his degree. I just wish him the best in re-starting his pro career.

Agreed.  Yes, it's "early" in the NCAA eligibility sense.  But he did finish school, which  is the real goalpost for student athletes.  Ok, only in theory.  Stop your laughing.

I have no problem with Garman walking away with his piece of paper early... More power to him for that.  I do find it Humorous that he thought the grass was greener on the other side after only 18 game starts at the D1 level.  Not all that seasoned for a 24 year old trying to jump to a pro level.  He had the chance to return and share the glory but let his ego get the better of him. And as for the mention of the "Signing Bonus" pointed out above...  This was the ECHL...  where your signing bonus might consist of a few thousand $ but definitely nothing lucrative.  And making 400$ per week in the ECHL is peanuts compared to the chance to play one more season in front of the Faithful.

Scrivens is the example for young players to follow...  use your 4 years to better yourself and grow  the rewards will be far more beneficial in the long run.

It wasn't his ego at all that led him to go pro, I don't think.  I believe he thought that if he wanted to have any chance of going pro, playing 16 or so games at the college level as a 25-year-old was not the way to go; it was now or never.  I don't really think he expected his pro career to be a huge success--he just wanted to give it a shot, knowing that his chance of playing professional hockey was passing him by.

[mikek]

Watched Scrivens in the PHX-TOR game (first hockey benefit I've gotten living in PHX...)  I missed the first period when Scrivens gave up the two goals, so I'm not sure how he was for those.  In the 2nd, 3rd, and OT I thought he looked really good.  Made several good saves down the stretch to keep the Leafs in it.  Stopped 33 of 35 shots.  Didn't do so hot in the shootout (0 for 2) as PHX won, but I thought overall it was a good performance by him.  Certainly looked like a capable NHL goalie.

[css228]

Watched Scrivens in the PHX-TOR game (first hockey benefit I've gotten living in PHX...)  I missed the first period when Scrivens gave up the two goals, so I'm not sure how he was for those.  In the 2nd, 3rd, and OT I thought he looked really good.  Made several good saves down the stretch to keep the Leafs in it.  Stopped 33 of 35 shots.  Didn't do so hot in the shootout (0 for 2) as PHX won, but I thought overall it was a good performance by him.  Certainly looked like a capable NHL goalie.

He has 6 games so far with 2.92 GAA and a .904 save percentage. Not bad when you consider most of the damage to those stats was done in 2 outlier games (one where he came in relief and only faced 7 shots) and hes been solid every other time out, one time being excellent. So yeah he's got a good looking future in the NHL.

[css228]

Looks like Garman's getting another opportunity. Best of luck Mike in the CHL.

Also Barlow is back in the AHL.

[Ben]

Mixed night for our boys: goals for Greening and Moulson, but Scrivens gave up 3 goals on 21 shots against Nashville.

[Trotsky]

Matt has quietly climbed back into his accustomed "more than anyone not named Taveras" spot in Islander goal scoring.  He has also scored in three straight games.

[Ben]

Scrivens gets the start against Carolina and makes 38 saves....but it's not enough as the Leafs lose 3-2.

[scoop85]

Scrivens gets the start against Carolina and makes 38 saves....but it's not enough as the Leafs lose 3-2.

Just saw the highlights on NHL Network.  He made some phenomenal stops, but seemed to get little help from his mates.

[Rita]

Guess I should have watched Van v. Ott instead of that debacle from the Meadowlands. Greening got the game tying early in the 3rd, and the game is headed to OT tied at 1.

[css228]

Guess I should have watched Van v. Ott instead of that debacle from the Meadowlands. Greening got the game tying early in the 3rd, and the game is headed to OT tied at 1.

What debacle in the Meadowlands? All I saw as a good ugly win!