Lacrosse 2012

[billhoward]

Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

[edit add] When April rolls in maybe we should break this into a second thread

[Swampy]

Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

[Al DeFlorio]

Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury.  When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program.  Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.

[Swampy]

Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html

All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva

Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.

What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.

I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury.  When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program.  Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.

I also saw somewhere that McBride's father is a MD. I didn't think of this, but med school is one of the "any studies" that still wouldn't work for post-grad lax players (or any sport) or, for that matter, for undergraduate Doogie Howsers to be.

The Lacrosse Magazine link above talks about the ACC becoming a "haven for Ivy League lacrosse players with extra eligibility." You have to give the ACC credit, it knows how to game the system.

[Al DeFlorio]

"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/06/10/christian-swezeys-2012-top-20-way-ahead-rankings

[Swampy]

"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/06/10/christian-swezeys-2012-top-20-way-ahead-rankings

In distantly related news, IL also previews the New York State High School championships. Although we appear to have a strong incoming class of recruits, a search of the preview page -- in which college commitments follow players' names in parentheses -- for "Cornell" just turns Firefox's search box red (ironic?).

While we might rationalize kids from IHS, playing for the Class A title, wanting to go to college away from Ithaca, it's hard to explain why no New York State player playing this weekend is planning to come to Cornell next year. With regents scholarships and several state-contracted schools, one would think we have an advantage recruiting in-state over, say, Harvard (2 players). I realize teams, not individual players, make the championships, so maybe NY State talent is elsewhere. Still, it's surprising that none of the in-state high-school players playing this weekend are planning to be on the hill next fall.

[TimV]

It's worse than that.  I think Harvard has three or four players (two defensemen, a goaltender and a midfielder) that will be in the Under Armour All-American Game.  Penn has at least one.Garden City must be a helluva good academic school with very influential guidance counsellors.

[Swampy]

Connor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team. He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.

[scoop85]

Connor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team. He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.

Harvard is having a field day recruiting the "name" guys, but it hasn't fully paid off on the field.  Similar to their recent hoops recruiting prowess; you wonder when (if) it will translate into at least an Ivy championship.

[TimV]

It hasn't helped them in the past.  In the late 90's they had three Empire State Game stars, also from Garden City, I believe- two Bevilaqua brothers and John (?) Ferrucci.  Result: zero championships, perhaps one NCAA tournament appearance - one and done, just like hockey.  Of course, those were the years when Princeton was racking up national championships, so we weren't winning any either.

[Jim Hyla]

Class of 2015 listed.

[Ben]

Anybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.

[billhoward]

Anybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.

Maybe they're good students regardless? I'd say we're also denying them to other schools, but word probably gets around when a coach overrecruits & stockpiles. So perhaps it just randomness ... coaches thought they'd get 2 of the 4 and they did better than expected?

I have trouble reading from the profiles and coach comments who's the next Max Seibald and who's going to be running third midfield, but it's great that almost school and its fans can feel good about their upcoming team.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

And if we're being honest, goal is probably the weakest area on the team.  Nothing wrong with recruiting a freshman to push the upperclassmen.

[semsox]

Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of them convert to a D or LSM