CU-SU Lacrosse Tonight

[phillysportsfan]

Great win, need to close the season out strong now.

[jkahn]

SU's play - just blatant Syracuse homerism. Every time Cornell scores it sounds like Cornell collectively kicked their dog. 10-5 11:45 left

I thought that they tried to be objective despite being obviously Syracuse fans.  They continually praised Cornell's man-to-man defense and Lang.  And they referred to Pannell often as the best player in the country.  While they were down on Syracuse's play today, they mentioned that they felt Syracuse wasn't that great in many close wins earlier this year.  They did say say they thought that if Syracuse had another 30 minutes, the result wouldn't be any different - Cornell was just much better. The color guy said that he votes in the media poll and said he'd have Cornell at #1 next week.

[billhoward]

SU's play - just blatant Syracuse homerism. Every time Cornell scores it sounds like Cornell collectively kicked their dog. 10-5 11:45 left

I thought that they tried to be objective despite being obviously Syracuse fans.  They continually praised Cornell's man-to-man defense and Lang.  And they referred to Pannell often as the best player in the country.  While they were down on Syracuse's play today, they mentioned that they felt Syracuse wasn't that great in many close wins earlier this year.  They did say say they thought that if Syracuse had another 30 minutes, the result wouldn't be any different - Cornell was just much better. The color guy said that he votes in the media poll and said he'd have Cornell at #1 next week.

The announcers gave a stab a balance and then, like the Orange on the field, retreated into something less than excellence. By building up Cornell they were saying a great Syracuse team was beaten by a greater team, on this day. They lamented the absence of their best defender, and fair enough, since our broadcast crew in early March mentioned how the absence of Max Feely may have been a difference in the 11-9 (attn Syracuse: two-goal difference, not five) loss to Army. Then at another point they played what-if and said, lookee how Cornell's defense totally shut down the best of the Syracuse attack, and imagine if the best Syracuse defender, John Lade, had played, and since Pannell had half the offense (3G, 3A, missed open net in the final minute - good thing it wasn't a one-goal game at the time) one could reasonably expect it would've been a close game. They clung to that thought as a drowning man to a piece of driftwood.

Makes you realize how dinky little Ithaca still supports a high quality broadcast crew for hockey, lax, and other sports. Our guys tell the Cornell side but you could tune in from Hanover, NH, or Princeton, and still a get a very fair sense of both sides of a game.

Assuming the color guy has a vote and not just a metaphorical "Cornell gets my vote," well, fair enough, but I think Notre Dame really ought to be No. 1 and probably will be. They haven't played just pushovers. I wouldn't mind us at #2 but I'd really prefer us at #2 in the seedings. And for seedings, that loss to Army that has been losing to the likes of Buckness, that's gonna hurt. Say, did I tell you how Max Feely was out and if he wasn't it woulda been a whole different game?

[Al DeFlorio]

Comprehensive post-game write-up here on Inside Lacrosse: http://games.insidelacrosse.com/game/ingame/1352/2011-04-12/cornell-big-red--syracuse-orange

[dbilmes]

As a former sports editor of The Daily Sun, I'm disappointed that there is no mention of the game this morning in either the print or online version of the paper. ::cry::Apparently, the Sun sports staff no longer knows how to write on deadline. Syracuse is only an hour away, and there's no excuse for not covering it and having a story in today's paper.

[Jordan 04]

As a former sports editor of The Daily Sun, I'm disappointed that there is no mention of the game this morning in either the print or online version of the paper. ::cry::Apparently, the Sun sports staff no longer knows how to write on deadline. Syracuse is only an hour away, and there's no excuse for not covering it and having a story in today's paper.

And bump the lead story on the 46th-ranked tennis team? Are you nuts??

[Jim Hyla]

Comprehensive post-game write-up here on Inside Lacrosse: http://games.insidelacrosse.com/game/ingame/1352/2011-04-12/cornell-big-red--syracuse-orange

And Syracuse Post-Standard article here.

[Al DeFlorio]

Comprehensive post-game write-up here on Inside Lacrosse: http://games.insidelacrosse.com/game/ingame/1352/2011-04-12/cornell-big-red--syracuse-orange

And Syracuse Post-Standard article here.

The Dave Rahme video and Syracuse post-game press conference video are also on that page.

[billhoward]

As a former sports editor of The Daily Sun, I'm disappointed that there is no mention of the game this morning in either the print or online version of the paper. ::cry::Apparently, the Sun sports staff no longer knows how to write on deadline. Syracuse is only an hour away, and there's no excuse for not covering it and having a story in today's paper.

The Sun a while back chose to split coverage of weekend events into Monday and Tuesday coverage. Most dailies choose to run larger sports sections on weekends and Mondays and it's unfortunate the Sun Sports Editor lobbying wiht the Editor-in-Chief / Managing Editor don't also give over more space on Monday. I believe some college editors come to college newspapers out of a belief the paper is a lever to change the world, as opposed to a place to see how your teams performed and do the crossword. To not cover the Syracuse game, arguably the most important sports event this year outside of the women's NCAA hockey title run and the wrestling team at the nationals, was not in the best interest of the readers.

David, I'm sure you know there's a Sun editor / alumni reunion event this Friday at the Cornell Club. For the first time in years, I can't make it. You go, and raise the issue in the round-robin of introductions that Sun den mother Stan Chess '69 calls for. The feedback may be painful but important. You might note there was room for this story, which leads the Sun's web page today: "Parent Support for Cornell Child Care Center Rises."

[dag14]

I, too, was shocked and disappointed in the Sun's lack of coverage.  While I am a strong supporter of all of Cornell's sports teams, bumping a column and eliminating an atsy rowing picture on the back page would have provdided the column inches necessary to accomodate lacrosse coverage on the back page.  And we need "off the grid" -- which I assume serves as Tuesday sports "filler" more than we need timely coverage of the Syracuse lacrosse game?  I don't think the featured 4 baseball players would be upset....

[ugarte]

SU's play - just blatant Syracuse homerism. Every time Cornell scores it sounds like Cornell collectively kicked their dog. 10-5 11:45 left

I thought that they tried to be objective despite being obviously Syracuse fans.  They continually praised Cornell's man-to-man defense and Lang.  And they referred to Pannell often as the best player in the country.  While they were down on Syracuse's play today, they mentioned that they felt Syracuse wasn't that great in many close wins earlier this year.  They did say say they thought that if Syracuse had another 30 minutes, the result wouldn't be any different - Cornell was just much better. The color guy said that he votes in the media poll and said he'd have Cornell at #1 next week.

The announcers gave a stab a balance and then, like the Orange on the field, retreated into something less than excellence. By building up Cornell they were saying a great Syracuse team was beaten by a greater team, on this day. They lamented the absence of their best defender, and fair enough, since our broadcast crew in early March mentioned how the absence of Max Feely may have been a difference in the 11-9 (attn Syracuse: two-goal difference, not five) loss to Army. Then at another point they played what-if and said, lookee how Cornell's defense totally shut down the best of the Syracuse attack, and imagine if the best Syracuse defender, John Lade, had played, and since Pannell had half the offense (3G, 3A, missed open net in the final minute - good thing it wasn't a one-goal game at the time) one could reasonably expect it would've been a close game. They clung to that thought as a drowning man to a piece of driftwood.

I didn't see the game or hear the call but I have to say... that sounds like a pretty reasonable analysis from the SU broadcast team. Unreasonable analysis is calling Cornell lucky or whining about the refs. Saying that a top 5 team currently kicking your team's ass is "great" hardly seems like a backdoor way of complimenting your own squad. Wondering if your top defenseman would have made a game closer is rational.

My armchair analysis of your own report of the SU crew is that they called a fair game and slanted their coverage towards their expected audience: fans of the Orange.

Edit: One more thing. Fuck yeah, Big Red!

[tretiak]

I agree with bill that they tried and then went back to being homers. Three things that annoyed me:

1.

To the announcers, Fiore's good saves were due to luck. On the other hand, Galloway was a great goalie making great saves. Just give credit to both goalies.

2.

The "I would vote Cornell #1" statement was made while the same announcer was bitching about the overrated chant and how that was unfair to Syracuse. I've never heard an announcer get that bent out of shape over a harmless chant.

3. Several times I had to watch the Cornell players celebrate to realize it was a goal. When Syracuse scored, I thought I was listening to Hawk Harrelson (YESSSSSSSS! SYRACUSE SCORES! AND IT'S 6-2! AMIDON WANTS THAT BALL!)

[snert1288]

I completely agree with you that the lacrosse game deserved better coverage, however, the Daily Sun did cover the game today on page 16.  It was a small article, but it is better than nothing.

[Robb]

I completely agree with you that the lacrosse game deserved better coverage, however, the Daily Sun did cover the game today on page 16.  It was a small article, but it is better than nothing.

Really?  If it were nothing, I could at least let it slide thinking that perhaps they couldn't get the story in by the print deadline.  Since they managed to get a small article in, it seems even more egregious not to have a back page story when Cornell's #2 (or is that wrestling now?) signature sport dismantles an undefeated, consensus #1, local and historical rival on its own turf.

[billhoward]

Press run for an under 30,000-circ paper can be done in an hour, sometime after last call, and still be delivered by 6 a.m.