Alumni in the Pros_ March 2011

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Ronald '09

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Quote from: abbottfanColin Greening just netted his 3rd NHL goal against the Carolina Hurricanes.

The announcers said it was a garbage goal. I think it is more of a great job following the shot and getting the rebound. It was also a nice pass Colin made to Spezza.

They don't ask how, they just ask how many.


(That's not my original.  NBC, Versus, and Devils' play-by-play guy Doc Emrick says that often when people get garbage goals.)

abbottfan

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Quote from: abbottfanColin Greening just netted his 3rd NHL goal against the Carolina Hurricanes.

The announcers said it was a garbage goal. I think it is more of a great job following the shot and getting the rebound. It was also a nice pass Colin made to Spezza.

They don't ask how, they just ask how many.


(That's not my original.  NBC, Versus, and Devils' play-by-play guy Doc Emrick says that often when people get garbage goals.)

I can't remember what his 2nd goal looked like, but I don't think any of his goals have been that great-looking. The first one went in off a skate.
A goal is a goal whether it's pretty or not.

Josh '99

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Quote from: abbottfanColin Greening just netted his 3rd NHL goal against the Carolina Hurricanes.

The announcers said it was a garbage goal. I think it is more of a great job following the shot and getting the rebound. It was also a nice pass Colin made to Spezza.

They don't ask how, they just ask how many.


(That's not my original.  NBC, Versus, and Devils' play-by-play guy Doc Emrick says that often when people get garbage goals.)

I can't remember what his 2nd goal looked like, but I don't think any of his goals have been that great-looking. The first one went in off a skate.
A goal is a goal whether it's pretty or not.
Yep.  And better players than Greening made careers out of garbage goals, no shame in that.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Trotsky

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Quote from: Rita
Quote from: abbottfanColin Greening just netted his 3rd NHL goal against the Carolina Hurricanes.

The announcers said it was a garbage goal. I think it is more of a great job following the shot and getting the rebound. It was also a nice pass Colin made to Spezza.

They don't ask how, they just ask how many.


(That's not my original.  NBC, Versus, and Devils' play-by-play guy Doc Emrick says that often when people get garbage goals.)

I can't remember what his 2nd goal looked like, but I don't think any of his goals have been that great-looking. The first one went in off a skate.
A goal is a goal whether it's pretty or not.
Yep.  And better players than Greening made careers out of garbage goals, no shame in that.
I would have bet that was gonna be a picture of Steve Shutt.

RatushnyFan

Beating your man to the net and slamming home a rebound is a beautiful thing IMHO.

Rita

Quote from: RatushnyFanBeating your man to the net and slamming home a rebound is a beautiful thing IMHO.

In my opinion too. That is why I got a bit miffed when it was referred to as a "garbage goal". I just thought it was good hustle, a good hockey play on Greening's part.

Ronald '09

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Quote from: RatushnyFanBeating your man to the net and slamming home a rebound is a beautiful thing IMHO.

In my opinion too. That is why I got a bit miffed when it was referred to as a "garbage goal". I just thought it was good hustle, a good hockey play on Greening's part.

I think the term garbage goal is appropriate, but also doesn't necessarily mean it's ugly.  If you look at the analogy more closely, it refers to "cleaning up the garbage" meaning that it came on a rebound.  Calling it a garbage goal is a fairly specific description of how the goal was scored, not a comment on the goal's relative "beauty."  I'm just making a general comment, didn't see Colin's goal last night.

ftyuv

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Quote from: RatushnyFanBeating your man to the net and slamming home a rebound is a beautiful thing IMHO.

In my opinion too. That is why I got a bit miffed when it was referred to as a "garbage goal". I just thought it was good hustle, a good hockey play on Greening's part.

I think the term garbage goal is appropriate, but also doesn't necessarily mean it's ugly.  If you look at the analogy more closely, it refers to "cleaning up the garbage" meaning that it came on a rebound.  Calling it a garbage goal is a fairly specific description of how the goal was scored, not a comment on the goal's relative "beauty."  I'm just making a general comment, didn't see Colin's goal last night.

Maybe it's just semantics, but to me a garbage goal is one which you really "shouldn't" have had. For instance, you're behind the net, you try to pass it to a someone, there's a weird deflection and it goes in off a defender's stick. Yeah it's in, yeah you get the point, and yeah you could argue that you had something to do with the defense being scrambly -- but it's not like you meant for it to work that way. Greening's goal wasn't that, though, it was good hustle to get the goal off the rebound. It's not garbage, it's Hockey 101.

Rosey

Quote from: ftyuvMaybe it's just semantics, but to me a garbage goal is one which you really "shouldn't" have had. For instance, you're behind the net, you try to pass it to a someone, there's a weird deflection and it goes in off a defender's stick. Yeah it's in, yeah you get the point, and yeah you could argue that you had something to do with the defense being scrambly -- but it's not like you meant for it to work that way.
Everyone I play with uses "garbage goal" this way, as well.
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amerks127

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Quote from: ftyuvMaybe it's just semantics, but to me a garbage goal is one which you really "shouldn't" have had. For instance, you're behind the net, you try to pass it to a someone, there's a weird deflection and it goes in off a defender's stick. Yeah it's in, yeah you get the point, and yeah you could argue that you had something to do with the defense being scrambly -- but it's not like you meant for it to work that way.
Everyone I play with uses "garbage goal" this way, as well.

Kinda like these?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnDnDZ9Qhp8

Rosey

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Quote from: ftyuvMaybe it's just semantics, but to me a garbage goal is one which you really "shouldn't" have had. For instance, you're behind the net, you try to pass it to a someone, there's a weird deflection and it goes in off a defender's stick. Yeah it's in, yeah you get the point, and yeah you could argue that you had something to do with the defense being scrambly -- but it's not like you meant for it to work that way.
Everyone I play with uses "garbage goal" this way, as well.

Kinda like these?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnDnDZ9Qhp8
#9 doesn't really qualify. #8 is marginal.

I also think the goals scored on dump-ins aren't really what most people mean by "garbage goal". These guys are shooting on-net rather than into the corner for a reason: because sometimes, however rarely, the pucks goes in. There's a difference between that and, say, scoring on a clear from the far end of the ice, or scoring on a cross-ice pass that gets deflected in by a defender.
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Trotsky

I always thought it just meant the puck and a whole mess o' players were mixed up in a scrum in front of the net and it winds up in (that's what a Steve Shutt Special is: everybody's in there with elbows high and limbs flailing about and the goalie is probably under 2 of his own guys).  Deflections off the back of pads from a terrible angle were, I thought, "fluke goals."

Jim Hyla

Quote from: TrotskyI always thought it just meant the puck and a whole mess o' players were mixed up in a scrum in front of the net and it winds up in (that's what a Steve Shutt Special is: everybody's in there with elbows high and limbs flailing about and the goalie is probably under 2 of his own guys).  Deflections off the back of pads from a terrible angle were, I thought, "fluke goals."
Me too.
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ftyuv

Quote from: TrotskyDeflections off the back of pads from a terrible angle were, I thought, "fluke goals."
Sometimes they're intentional.

Rosey

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Quote from: TrotskyDeflections off the back of pads from a terrible angle were, I thought, "fluke goals."
Sometimes they're intentional.
Gretzky was a master at this sort of goal.
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